Rule of Rose Mysteries

Since I know you personally liked our photos from before I thought you would like the shoot I did recently.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/poisonbabyfood/sets/72157622406273643/
Just so I don’t come off as trying to promote myself on your website. That is not my intension. I just know you personally enjoyed the photos so I thought I would send them your way.

Hope you are doing well. I still keep up from time to time <3

I changed the wig, I think it helped alot.

Hi
I really find this site interesting, and thank you for it. Even though i follow the happennings here for long, i didn’t tryed to ask yet for different reasons.

The things i have always wonder are few, and i deeply apologise if they have been answered somewhere i couldn’t find.

First, the sledgehammer.

I hardly believe i was the only one to find this weapon ? I never saw it’s name in any list.

If i remember correctly, since i didn’t played for long, it was the last chapter before the orphanage, (rag princess i think so) in one of the few reactor area (down the ladders). Only there, an imp throw the hammer at you, and crawl back under the motor, disappearring. you can then pick it up, and it’s quite powerful. the dexcription says “sledgehammer, one swing will break most objects”.

Forgive me if i’m really not accurate enough, i didn’t played in a really long time.

The second thing is something i never could find anywhere. What is the thing we can find with the bullet ? how hard i tryed, i never found anything except other bullets. SO what are the ???? referring to ?

Thank you if you believe me, more if you can help me to figure this last thing, it’s quite a tickling mistery to me.

i wish you nice holidays.

Hi
Thank you, i knew it would have been found already.
However for the gun, i don’t thin so, when we find an item, all the items that could find it do list it as a possibility, it doesn’t happen for the bullet, since it would have written revolver, or so i believe.

Thank you for your quick answer altough : )

Hello PokerNemesis,

For a long time now, I’ve been following your blog and lately, your videos on YouTube.
I’m replaying Rule of Rose for the second time and i got to the Sir Peter chapter when i noticed something. I was searching around for special items before i actually set out to find Amanda on the top of the airship, when i asked Brown to find the item “candy”. (we were in the area where all the aristocrats spend the most time, mind you.) He went to find it and it led to the Sick Bay. There, i tried opening up the down but it was locked and suddenly, some muffled noises came out of there sounding like Hoffman. It then goes to a cut scene where Jennifer can look through the key-hole and see the imps around Hoffman who is in a tied-up position. At first, it startled me because i couldn’t remember seeing this before. Then i realized that this was before the boss battle and it was showing how Hoffman got to be the way he was at that time.
I went through your posts to see if you had anything that was remotely close to this but i couldn’t find any so I’m alerting you of this you might be able to analyze it better than me.
Sincerely,
Bridget

okay! thank you! i couldn’t find it to save my life.

Hi, I just sent you an email asking for a book recommendation of anything alike Rule of Rose.

Hi, does anyone know about any books that influented or were influented by Role of Rose? I’ve been meaning to find it’s literary equivalent.

Hello Hello.
PokerNemesis, my gift is complete ! (i’m happy)
it took less than a month and a fifty hours play game, but here are the results.

I made complete maps of the airship (lower, upper, central), the orphanage, the gingerbread jouse and strange hill.
On each, i wrote where was every item.
(the lower deck map is 193 centimeters tall on paper)

You’ll find that on the lists of names and items, there are english and french, that’s just because i am, and some funny things occured. I’ll tell about it after giving you thoses maps.

On megaupload ( because servimg.com couldn’t take pictures of 100mg.bmp) i opened an account just for you.

http://www.megaupload.com/?f=GHIGAL0E

beware, there are two pages.
The numbers 0 refers to high res bmp of the maps, as scanned and put together.
1 for .jpg ; 2 for sepia like and 4 for somekind of reverse color in deep red, i find it pretty and easyer to read on screen. (if i have to print i would mostly not choose that one).

If you are not a megaupload funky-junky, i even opened an account on deviant art so you can take them.

http://kangeis.deviantart.com/gallery/#_browse

There are only the deep reds ones, but i can put the white ones too if you want.

Everyone is invited to steal the maps, print them and decorate their bedrooms, kitchens, stairways, or sewage treatment room with it ! or just keeping them reachable when playing.

As i told the first time here, when i was wondering about the item the bullet may find and the sledgehammer not being in the item list, i knew this site since a long time (and being in my favorites) but couldn’t think about anything usefull to give. The most interesting theories (proven mostly) where already thought of and wrote, i felt somehow guilty, because for a so wonderful master work as this game, i could do nothing.

But i thought, and what i did to obscure, i could do it again in Rule of Rose ? The maps were quite logical, and the items harder to find. So i did. Using my old items lists (not yours sorry) and a lot of paper, i did.

The funny stuff now. All the things i encountered during this.
The mostly (un)funny was between the sector 1 and 2. When you are on the end of sector 2, the two walkay are four meters away one of each other, but when you cross on sector 1, they are only two meters away from each other.
That’s why you’ll see the biggest difference there on the map, i kept the four metter distance.
(I had some funny things like that in obscure too, like room with two windows from outside, and three from inside, or doors changing side)
The second most funny one comes from the french translation of the game. The upper deck men’s lavatory are translated as WC femmes, wich means women’s lavatory.
There is also the funny door to the radio room, there is wall on left inside, but not outside.

I had some funny stuff like throwing away the rough before drawing the final version ; and had to do some stretch to make the lifts and stairway fit together. For example, the gap between the central stairway C and D is not so long, but i had to, otherwise the loft wouldn’t fit together.
The aristocrat room on the upper deck has been stretched too for the same reason ( the stairways ). And i think it is interesting to notice that when you are in this room, you have no map or name. It’s nowhere ? It’s memory after all.

The codes for eleanor bird box are written in the near wall. i know you don’t see that wall in the in game map, it appeared because i made the rooms a little bigger than they really are.

The strange hill and the gingerbread house were the easy parts as you can guess.
The orphanage map wasn’t quite hard, exept for the attic, wich seriously took me time and smiles.
the storage (41) is really bigger than it should be, but it would have look too strange, and same for the (38), the prince and princess quarters.

it was intended first that i draw the different versions we encounter of the salon and the classroom, but it flew away like a butterfly. For the same reason, the knight and bin of the salon and vip room are listed with their month but not drawn on the map.

The list of things i thought off in random : The smoking room becoming more and more messy is becoming the play area, somehow the filth room too changes that way.

I first wonder if the filth room of the airship was not meant to reflect the filth room of the orphanage but the rickety shed. I don’t think anymore, but it’s maybe interesting to note that both jennifer and brown where tide up at a central pillar.
Sector 7 cargo bay remind of the classroom, but the black board is near the heatting. It also remind of the big attic storage (40), an area in game we can visit once, and find nothing. The sector 14 also remind of it.
of course, working class luggage is sewing room, middle class luggage seem to be the cell of remorse, and the aristocrat luggage ?
The port livestock room would be the fence road, left of the orphanage, where the cages are.
For some reason i can’t really explain, the starboard livestock room remind me of the balcony.

In the sick room, the drawings are nearly where the windows are in the orphanage version. Also, it semt too logical because it’s an airship to be told, but i believe the fact that nearly every room lose it’s windows tighten up the claustrophobia. There is truly no escape, jennifer is still in the orphanage, but she can’t see any window anymore, except in the sick room where they are thoses drawings, from wendy.

I didn’t wrote all the orphans names on the numbered room, only the ones i was sure about.

During the funeral part, sorry, i didn’t read what you could have written about it, so i’ll probably repeat something.
The pigs are amanda, obviously, and the gluttonous prince, (in the hall), i don’t remember if it’s xavier, leo, thomas, or else.
The rats are olivia, with a meat cleaver, and diana wich wields the basement axe. (At first i thought diana would be fish, but here, she’s a rat ? i wondered why. And then i thought about the attitude of the rat, sniffing everything, and i thought it could be a metaphoric cry and tears attitude. Jennifer saw both of them crying.)
The goats are margaret and the other boy in the hall (wielding a scythe ??) The others become random imps.
There i just forgot i didn’t checkl on the balcony to see what eleanor looked like.
Also, i truly hate the dragons. The big things in the central stairway during the bird of happiness and in the classroom during funeral ; what the hell are they supposed to be ?

Also, and i couldn’t find any theory for it, during daytime, only one restroom is open, on the second floor, also, washouse and shower are closed. But during night, they all open, and all contains one can of dog food. It’s quite a lot of dog food, and why there always ?

And to get over, a creepy theory. (it has very little logic i reassure you)
Jennifer did found the gun, and that’s why she’s called thief by one of the paper ball. And each of the bullet she find is an empty shell of bullet she used to kill everyone. xavier in the play area, amanda in the sewing room, martha in her room, clara in the sick bay, hoffman in the classroom, brown in the inner court, meg in the cell of repentance, et cetera, wendy in the sickroom. Finally, with the last bullet, gregory killed himself and was latter thought as being the murderer of everyone. yay happy ending. Sorry, i just began to think wierdly when collecting the bullet (23 +1 in the gun, makes enough to kill a lot of puppies).

Libra is found in the Library, Aquarius in the sewage treatment, Pisces in the aquarium room, Capricorn in the goat room, gemini in the sick room . . .
If it hasn’t been done yet, there is a little symbolism for each disc location.
That’s enough writting for now, i can hardly breath.

To conclude, i hope you will enjoy the gift poker, and everyone else. It was quite a work, I really hope it will be used and apreciated.

Oh wow, I started a trend!

Anyway, we got more pictures at the last con and we added a few characters.
http://elemental-photography.net/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=264

Sure, you can put one picture.
Cosplayers are:
Leesers – Jennifer
Wendy – Miri
Diana – Avianna (Me)
Meg – Bonk
Eleanor – Straywind
Joshua – Devious_Tofu
Photographer – Elemental

We hope to have a Stray Dog and an Amanda next time… whenever that will be

To Saffity ;
As i like to say, Rule of Rose is my favorite of all Silent hill. The idea of playing a character in a world based on reality but alterated by the memories (oftenly refused and forgotten because traumatics) and the person mind, uncounsciously, is the common, and wonderful, line between them. Silent hills are more violent then, when rule of rose uses poetry.

Because of the main line ; a traumatic, somehow forgotten past, and the game where reality and imaginary (reliving the past, and all the emotions it carried, symbolised a way or another) are so mixed we’re not sure wich is what ; it can always be very well interpreted as a delirium, therefor a psychiatric hospital cell is quite plausible for poor jennifer real location. (except if there was an alessa before amanda in the orphanage)

Also split personality, because they are the most impressive and somehow easy symptom of trauma and mental disease to put on cinema, the reality about is more subtle, but can still be true where you said so.
In fact, the cases of multiple entitys not aware of each other in a same person are really really rare, and most of those rare cases, they are far more than just two or three.
But at the most common and lower extent of trauma, when someone got an awfull trauma, The PTSD can also be interpretated as a split, in the mind. (not really persona) To protect, the person put all the horror in a single basket of mind, and toss it as far as possible, try to forgot and manage it like that. It saves lives, but after, the basket is like a spli personality, it’s a lot of pain, suffering, and memorys, that, upon special occasion ; “triggers”, will come back eventually, and again and again, until a real psychological work is done, and the two “splits” are united again.

So, in a form, every trauma leading to ptsd can be interpreted as splitting personality, it’s a split, a piece of the person that disconnected, and it’s the demon born through the trauma ; but even if it looks different, it’s still the same person. Acceptance of them is always hard. But even if they only seem to seek for destruction, that the only thing “they” want.

Well it was long ; the goal was to say that, wherever jennifer was ; in a mental hospital, or half alseep in a bus, it’s , in my opinion, a perfectly coorect assumption that a “split” personality appeared, as this boy, to make her run, toward acceptance. Also in this case, don’t we see a butterfly flying near a light ? It’s maybe more than a mood. A “split” strange little boy that lead her is a quite good thought. After all, we know it’s wendy at the end, but it does’nt really mean it Was wendy since the start. (well what she says at the end does pretty much, but this “present” wendy can be a lot of thing)

Also, about split personality, since we have joshua-jennifer and joshua-wendy, when all past memory has been obliterated because of a huge trauma, it wouldn’t surprise me to discover some “mistakes” at first. At the end, it could also have been a young jennifer taking off the wig, it wouldn’t had change a lot the story.
“because you led to this. because you choose to forgot all of us, i brought you here. but i, i. . . Now only you and your so beloved dog can defeat him.”