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		<title>By: Firewitch1207</title>
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		<dc:creator>Firewitch1207</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 17:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right &amp; you haved helped alot maybe we should also consider the gallows PokerNemesis mentioned since the suicide could be a coup or clue. Thanks 4 helping me understand the story since I can only use this &amp; youtube for references because I don&#039;t have the game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right &amp; you haved helped alot maybe we should also consider the gallows PokerNemesis mentioned since the suicide could be a coup or clue. Thanks 4 helping me understand the story since I can only use this &amp; youtube for references because I don&#8217;t have the game.</p>
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		<title>By: Lussh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lussh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 13:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From what we know, gregory used the gun to kill himself, and what we see, probably killed the children with his hands. 
But it&#039;s been a while since i starte to think he might not have killed all of them.
There are already suspicions hoffman / martha / clara may have been killed by the children, but from my point of view ;
the children are creepy. They acted nice on day, but during the night of funeral, they bear weapon, almost all of them.
I know during october, there is even an imp attacking with a fire extinguisher, so to say they use anything they can grab, as anyone would do during a riot. I had the idea that if jennifer actually gave the gun to gregory, it was because she actually was the one who picked it up in the prince and princess private quarters, so to summarize :

Greg used one bullet to kill himself, there are potential weapon everywhere in the house, the adults are probably &quot;gone&quot;, jen most probably has the gun. My thought is so that greg probably killed some of them, but they were maybe fine killing each other already. Because of what jen suffered, i have some suspicions. Maybe greg only came to the orphanage because he heard a lot of fireshot, and in the end was the only one jen could not shoot ? 

Oddly, i can picture her shooting wendy at the end, but not greg. Greg was odd, and was emprisoning her, but turned out less sadistic toward her than wendy did because of her jealousy. 

Also, to go back in the tracks of the subject here ; since the beginning, we know there is no boy at all in the red crayon aristocracy. So either they where below jen and amanda, or mostly not in their game at all. Between october and december, we have orphanage daily with hoffman ruling, and nightly with aristocracy ruling, and the last day.
During day, nothing wrong, except they do like the girl, they don&#039;t speak to jen. Meaning that if they&#039;re not in the &quot;game&quot;, they at least do like the others. That might mean something.
During night, they still do like the others, attacking with any weapon on hand. (i have a different opinion about diana since i saw her rat imp attack jen with an axe, i still picture diana with an axe since...)
But for the last day, the ceremony of welcoming the new princess, very oddly, do not happened in the usual aristocracy room. Why that ? Olivia could have entered anyway and tell she saw wendy, but they choose to do the meeting in the classroom (with the third disk arrangement). Anyway, i think, since it&#039;s a secret reunion from the club, the boys weren&#039;t invited, and are probably still sleeping... Or if the adults where gone and they were hungry, they were the first to be eaten by the group of girls, but i don&#039;t think anything points toward canibalism (except for greg a litle). 

Because of food being so precious, even if it&#039;s only candies and pastry, i sometimes wondered if they wer&#039;ent hungry at a time, moreover if no adult was there anymore, but i&#039;m probably missleading. 

I talked quite a lot not to say pretty much, i&#039;m sorry. To conclude, i think jennifer might very well have killed some of the children herself, as much as some could kill each other in a place where the only law remaining is the one of the red crayon club. As long as greg used the last bullet on himself, the newspaper article is still right. It doesn&#039;t explicitly says that he killed all of the children being dead. I think that subtle diffrence means a heavy lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what we know, gregory used the gun to kill himself, and what we see, probably killed the children with his hands.<br />
But it&#8217;s been a while since i starte to think he might not have killed all of them.<br />
There are already suspicions hoffman / martha / clara may have been killed by the children, but from my point of view ;<br />
the children are creepy. They acted nice on day, but during the night of funeral, they bear weapon, almost all of them.<br />
I know during october, there is even an imp attacking with a fire extinguisher, so to say they use anything they can grab, as anyone would do during a riot. I had the idea that if jennifer actually gave the gun to gregory, it was because she actually was the one who picked it up in the prince and princess private quarters, so to summarize :</p>
<p>Greg used one bullet to kill himself, there are potential weapon everywhere in the house, the adults are probably &#8220;gone&#8221;, jen most probably has the gun. My thought is so that greg probably killed some of them, but they were maybe fine killing each other already. Because of what jen suffered, i have some suspicions. Maybe greg only came to the orphanage because he heard a lot of fireshot, and in the end was the only one jen could not shoot ? </p>
<p>Oddly, i can picture her shooting wendy at the end, but not greg. Greg was odd, and was emprisoning her, but turned out less sadistic toward her than wendy did because of her jealousy. </p>
<p>Also, to go back in the tracks of the subject here ; since the beginning, we know there is no boy at all in the red crayon aristocracy. So either they where below jen and amanda, or mostly not in their game at all. Between october and december, we have orphanage daily with hoffman ruling, and nightly with aristocracy ruling, and the last day.<br />
During day, nothing wrong, except they do like the girl, they don&#8217;t speak to jen. Meaning that if they&#8217;re not in the &#8220;game&#8221;, they at least do like the others. That might mean something.<br />
During night, they still do like the others, attacking with any weapon on hand. (i have a different opinion about diana since i saw her rat imp attack jen with an axe, i still picture diana with an axe since&#8230;)<br />
But for the last day, the ceremony of welcoming the new princess, very oddly, do not happened in the usual aristocracy room. Why that ? Olivia could have entered anyway and tell she saw wendy, but they choose to do the meeting in the classroom (with the third disk arrangement). Anyway, i think, since it&#8217;s a secret reunion from the club, the boys weren&#8217;t invited, and are probably still sleeping&#8230; Or if the adults where gone and they were hungry, they were the first to be eaten by the group of girls, but i don&#8217;t think anything points toward canibalism (except for greg a litle). </p>
<p>Because of food being so precious, even if it&#8217;s only candies and pastry, i sometimes wondered if they wer&#8217;ent hungry at a time, moreover if no adult was there anymore, but i&#8217;m probably missleading. </p>
<p>I talked quite a lot not to say pretty much, i&#8217;m sorry. To conclude, i think jennifer might very well have killed some of the children herself, as much as some could kill each other in a place where the only law remaining is the one of the red crayon club. As long as greg used the last bullet on himself, the newspaper article is still right. It doesn&#8217;t explicitly says that he killed all of the children being dead. I think that subtle diffrence means a heavy lot.</p>
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		<title>By: Firewitch1207</title>
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		<dc:creator>Firewitch1207</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 11:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is but remember he didn&#039;t have his gun because Jen took it. This part&#039;s always confused me because all the orphans except Amanda &amp; Wendy are in better shape than her &amp; might be able to run away not to mention that there&#039;s no link to theese murders in the gingerbread house. His farm tools aren&#039;t even red. I&#039;ll try to listen to the noises outside during the massacre but I&#039;m not sure how much help they would be because you hear Hoffman shouting Hey! but during this time he Clara &amp; Martha {seen during the day} aren&#039;t there anymore. If only the included the orphans&#039; bodies or traces of blood it would explain so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is but remember he didn&#8217;t have his gun because Jen took it. This part&#8217;s always confused me because all the orphans except Amanda &amp; Wendy are in better shape than her &amp; might be able to run away not to mention that there&#8217;s no link to theese murders in the gingerbread house. His farm tools aren&#8217;t even red. I&#8217;ll try to listen to the noises outside during the massacre but I&#8217;m not sure how much help they would be because you hear Hoffman shouting Hey! but during this time he Clara &amp; Martha {seen during the day} aren&#8217;t there anymore. If only the included the orphans&#8217; bodies or traces of blood it would explain so much.</p>
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		<title>By: Carpenter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carpenter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 03:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just figured that he strangled them or maybe even shot them? It&#039;s pretty unclear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just figured that he strangled them or maybe even shot them? It&#8217;s pretty unclear.</p>
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		<title>By: Firewitch1207</title>
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		<dc:creator>Firewitch1207</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 02:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know that this isn&#039;t about the clothes {but I think you can spot some overalls Xavier&#039;s shirt &amp; even pants on katrinonus&#039; blind let&#039;s play} but you never seemed to touch on the act of the massacre how do you think Gregory killed all the orphans?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that this isn&#8217;t about the clothes {but I think you can spot some overalls Xavier&#8217;s shirt &amp; even pants on katrinonus&#8217; blind let&#8217;s play} but you never seemed to touch on the act of the massacre how do you think Gregory killed all the orphans?</p>
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		<title>By: PokerNemesis</title>
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		<dc:creator>PokerNemesis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 04:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome, abisal!</description>
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		<title>By: abisal</title>
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		<dc:creator>abisal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 04:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The boys didn&#039;t seem to care much about the Aristocrat Club at any point of the game, so it is quite possible they were sleeping at the time and didn&#039;t really bother to go to Brown&#039;s funeral. I am pretty sure they didn&#039;t go to most of the club&#039;s meetings eitherway.
Stray Dog is left alone in the house a few moments in Jennifer&#039;s mind (which could possibly mean a few minutes in the actual event) after she &quot;defeats him&quot; and runs outside to check out what had happened to the girls. So, he might have killed the boys at that point.
Also, I think the reason the police failed to realize one of the children was missing from the scene is because Martha had reported that a child from the orphanage (Wendy, when she left to &quot;train&quot; Gregory so he acted as Stray Dog) had gone missing previously, so when the police came and saw the corpse of a blonde girl (Wendy), they simply assumed it was Jennifer&#039;s as they did the body count.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The boys didn&#8217;t seem to care much about the Aristocrat Club at any point of the game, so it is quite possible they were sleeping at the time and didn&#8217;t really bother to go to Brown&#8217;s funeral. I am pretty sure they didn&#8217;t go to most of the club&#8217;s meetings eitherway.<br />
Stray Dog is left alone in the house a few moments in Jennifer&#8217;s mind (which could possibly mean a few minutes in the actual event) after she &#8220;defeats him&#8221; and runs outside to check out what had happened to the girls. So, he might have killed the boys at that point.<br />
Also, I think the reason the police failed to realize one of the children was missing from the scene is because Martha had reported that a child from the orphanage (Wendy, when she left to &#8220;train&#8221; Gregory so he acted as Stray Dog) had gone missing previously, so when the police came and saw the corpse of a blonde girl (Wendy), they simply assumed it was Jennifer&#8217;s as they did the body count.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 04:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if the boys were able to fight off the stray dog because all they ever did was play fight. As for the little prince, I haven&#039;t the foggiest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if the boys were able to fight off the stray dog because all they ever did was play fight. As for the little prince, I haven&#8217;t the foggiest.</p>
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		<title>By: noob_alchemist</title>
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		<dc:creator>noob_alchemist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, I just wanted to say that I love this site, all the theories are awesome! Secondly, I think I have a theory as to why Diana and the boys&#039; clothes aren&#039;t in the front with the rest. (I&#039;m kind of tired right now, so sorry if it doesn&#039;t make much sense!)

I agree with Masq, I think that Thomas was in the playroom at the time, but what about Nicholas and Xavier? I think they must have been out front with the others, but maybe those two, along with Diana, weren&#039;t as close as the other childern, so Gregory didn&#039;t go after them immediately.

Masq wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;But if that were the case, where do you think the “missing” orphans got killed?

Do you think maybe where we see drawings of Stray Dog may be sort of indicators?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That comment is actually what got this theory of mine started. At the beginning of the game, you can&#039;t go in through the front gate, you have to go around and in through a side gate, where there&#039;s two drawings of Stray Dog. I&#039;m a bit forgetful, so correct me if I&#039;m wrong, but I think that there&#039;s only three drawings of Stray Dog at the orphanage - the one in the playroom, and the two by this side gate. To be able to get to the front yard after entering this gate, you have to turn right and go through a door in a wood fence.

I think that between Diana, Nicholas and Xavier, one of them might&#039;ve run back inside to try and hide, while the other two might&#039;ve started to run towards this fence to try and escape. If they did run towards the fence, they must&#039;ve made it through - maybe they even got close to the gate - before Gregory caught up with them.

Assuming that the Stray Dog drawing in the playroom across from the &quot;Thomas&quot; doll does mean that the drawings indicate where an orphan died, then the drawing closest to the fence must be where Gregory caught up with them and grabbed the first one. The second kid, probably scared out of their mind at this point (I know I would be!) probably just ran, running right past the gate and over to the other Stray Dog drawing (to the left of gate) where Gregory caught them, too.

Of course, that theory is based on a lot of &quot;maybe&quot;s, so feel free to knock it down. ^^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, I just wanted to say that I love this site, all the theories are awesome! Secondly, I think I have a theory as to why Diana and the boys&#8217; clothes aren&#8217;t in the front with the rest. (I&#8217;m kind of tired right now, so sorry if it doesn&#8217;t make much sense!)</p>
<p>I agree with Masq, I think that Thomas was in the playroom at the time, but what about Nicholas and Xavier? I think they must have been out front with the others, but maybe those two, along with Diana, weren&#8217;t as close as the other childern, so Gregory didn&#8217;t go after them immediately.</p>
<p>Masq wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>But if that were the case, where do you think the “missing” orphans got killed?</p>
<p>Do you think maybe where we see drawings of Stray Dog may be sort of indicators?</p></blockquote>
<p>That comment is actually what got this theory of mine started. At the beginning of the game, you can&#8217;t go in through the front gate, you have to go around and in through a side gate, where there&#8217;s two drawings of Stray Dog. I&#8217;m a bit forgetful, so correct me if I&#8217;m wrong, but I think that there&#8217;s only three drawings of Stray Dog at the orphanage &#8211; the one in the playroom, and the two by this side gate. To be able to get to the front yard after entering this gate, you have to turn right and go through a door in a wood fence.</p>
<p>I think that between Diana, Nicholas and Xavier, one of them might&#8217;ve run back inside to try and hide, while the other two might&#8217;ve started to run towards this fence to try and escape. If they did run towards the fence, they must&#8217;ve made it through &#8211; maybe they even got close to the gate &#8211; before Gregory caught up with them.</p>
<p>Assuming that the Stray Dog drawing in the playroom across from the &#8220;Thomas&#8221; doll does mean that the drawings indicate where an orphan died, then the drawing closest to the fence must be where Gregory caught up with them and grabbed the first one. The second kid, probably scared out of their mind at this point (I know I would be!) probably just ran, running right past the gate and over to the other Stray Dog drawing (to the left of gate) where Gregory caught them, too.</p>
<p>Of course, that theory is based on a lot of &#8220;maybe&#8221;s, so feel free to knock it down. ^^</p>
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		<title>By: Masq</title>
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		<dc:creator>Masq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t mean to cut you off. ^^() : just likes debating:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t mean to cut you off. ^^() : just likes debating:</p>
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