In the Women’s Lavatory of the orphanage there are five stalls.
Let’s consider the stalls from right to left, from nearer the entrance of the lavatory to furthest away from the entrance of the lavatory.
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Nearest to the entrance of the lavatory is (1) a stall without a door, piled high with sacks filled with who-knows-what, and which has boards nailed across its door frame to block access. I’m going to ignore the mystery presented by this blocked-off lavatory stall in this blog-post.
One stall further away from the entrance of the lavatory is (2) the stall in which we see Diana and Meg together in the E3/pregame video (this is the scene during which Diana deliberately presses Meg’s finger into the thorn of a rose that Meg is offering to Diana, after which Diana sucks on Meg’s wounded finger—provided we believe the illustration on the game box showing Diana sucking on a finger: from the just the E3/pregame video itself we cannot see exactly what Diana is doing… she could could just be kissing the wounded finger).
This (2) is also the same lavatory stall in which Diana and Meg are talking to each other—during the “Bird of Happiness” chapter—while Jennifer is listening from (3) the adjacent stall (one stall further from the entrance).
(3) The adjacent lavatory stall from which Jennifer is listening, during the “Bird of Happiness” chapter, is the stall with the drawing of the red bird.
One stall further from the entrance, is (4) the stall into which Gregory pulls Jennifer during the E3/pregame video.
And there is one more stall (5) that is the furthest from the entrance of the lavatory.
I propose a hypothesis that these lavatory stalls are assigned (by the Aristocrat Club) as follows:
(2) The stall of the Duchess, Diana
(3) The stall of the Countess, Eleanor
(4) The stall of the Baroness, Meg
(5) The stall for all of the other girls
In the gamescript of TheSinnerChrono (see the link in “Important Resources“), we are told that lavatory stall (2) is “their secret place” (that is, the secret place of Diana and Meg). This is just an interpretation given by TheSinnerChrono, the game itself never tells us this explicitly. And as I thought more about this interpretation, I began to wonder if it was wrong in two respects: wrong in saying that the place was secret, and wrong in saying it was “their” (in the plural sense) place.
At first I accepted that the stall was “their” place, but questioned whether it was actually a secret place.
That particular stall is certainly a place for Diana and Meg to tell secrets and do secret things, but having a lavatory stall as a secret place invites unintentional interferences by others wanting to use the stall. Unless—I thought—it is a actually a private place rather than a secret place… a lavatory stall well-known by all the girls to be the exclusive “private property” of Diana and Meg. That made more sense to me.
And notice that in the E3/pregame video, while Diana and Meg are together in the lavatory stall, Eleanor is standing in the middle of the main space of the lavatory room, facing toward the open entrance of the lavatory (connecting to the hallway), as if standing guard over the privacy of Meg and Diana (Jennifer sees the scene only because she is looking through the open lavatory door from the hallway outside of the lavatory). The stall is certainly not a secret from Eleanor. Nor would the fact that something was going on in the stall be a secret if somebody was turned away from using the lavatory by Eleanor. Privacy seems to be the issue here, not secrecy.
In the “Bird of Happiness” chapter, it may be that Meg and Diana are wanting to talk about Eleanor behind her back. At any rate, Eleanor is not around to stand guard over their privacy, which could be enough in itself to explain the “shhhhh”s and admonitions to be “quiet” before Meg and Diana enter the stall. Even in their private place, they don’t want “eavesdroppers”, so it is better if they go to their private stall secretly on this occasion.
The idea that this stall (2) was the private property of Meg and Diana opened up the possibility that the adjacent stall (3) was the private property of Eleanor, which might shed light on the presence of the red bird drawing in that stall. I liked this idea, but as I thought more about it, I began to think that the idea that Meg and Diana shared a stall, while Eleanor had one to herself, was an odd arrangement.
It then occurred to me that it seemed far more appropriate that each of the three aristocrats would have had their own private lavatory stalls, and that these stalls would be arranged according to rank.
TheSinnerChrono identifies Diana as being the one who says “Over here!” to Meg, before they enter the stall (2) in the “Bird of Happiness” chapter. I agree. And we see that it is Diana that leads the way to the stall. If the stall was Diana’s private place, it would be expected that Meg would only enter by Diana’s invitation.
Both times that we see Meg and Diana together in that stall, we see Diana as the one who sits on the toilet, which is sometimes humorously called “the throne” in English. Diana on the throne, while Meg stands or kneels, is what we would expect anyway from Diana’s superior rank and relational dominance, but it is also consistent with the idea that Diana is the master of that particular place.
And if my hypothesis about private stalls, and their assignment, is correct, then the lavatory stall with the red bird drawing is indeed Eleanor’s private lavatory stall. Perhaps we can use this as a clue to help us come to an understanding of the meaning of the red bird drawing in that stall.
What do you think of the hypothesis of assigned lavatory stalls?
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Hmm, I wonder what stall Wendy would’ve had?
But I do like this hypothesis, it falls into sense when you really think about it.
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Ambient in Strings asked:
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As Wendy spent so much time in the Sick Room, I expect that she mostly used the upstairs lavatory.
But if Wendy was hiding the fact that she was the Princess, or if Wendy was not always the Princess, then she would have used the stall furthest away from the entrance to the lavatory.
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Hmmm… I just now had a totally new thought thanks to your question!
According to the direction of rank that I proposed (the higher rank the rank, the closer to the entrance of the Women’s Lavatory), the stall that one would expect to be assigned to the Princess would be the stall nearest to the entrance: the stall (1) that we see filled with sacks and blocked off from use.
This idea might open up some new possibilities for explaining why we see that stall (1) as we do.
For instance, if Wendy was the Princess all along, and if Jennifer knew this fact all along in real life when she lived at the orphanage, but was blocking the remembrance of this in her dream, then the blocked-off stall might never have been actually been blocked-off in real life, but is seen that way in Jennifer’s dream as an aspect of Jennifer blocking her memories about Wendy as Princess.
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You didn’t ask about Clara, but…
As I tend to think of Clara as having been kept in the dark about the Aristocrat Club (because she was so much older than the other girls), I think that Clara may have used whatever stall she wanted, when she was downstairs.
PokerNemesis wrote:
I don’t have my game handy, but do you happen to know of any revelation Jennifer makes in the Once Upon a Time chapter concerning that particular stall? OR if it is somehow different in appearance?
Ambient in Strings asked:
In the “Once Upon A Time” chapter, Jennifer made no statement about the blocked-off stall in the Women’s Lavatory, nor does that stall look any different that I’ve noticed.
She does make a statement at the blocked off stall in the Men’s Restroom:
“Once, Susan started a rumor about voices coming from this room at night… It turned out it was only the door creaking in the wind, but one night, sounds came from the room even with the windows shut. Susan jumped out of her bed and screamed. It was really just a prank by Nicholas and Xavier. From then on, the room was believed to be haunted and was considered off limits.”
“Room” might be a mistranslation for “stall”. If so, the stall was blocked off because it was feared that it was haunted. See my blog-post Did the Orphans Think That the Men’s Lavatory Was Haunted By Mr. Hoffman’s Ghost?. I have generally had the inclination to look for a similar explanation for the blocking off of the stall in the Women’s Lavatory: something to do with Stray Dog, or a ghost.
But if we can put aside the haunted explanation (which perhaps we cannot)…
It might be thought that the fact of the blocked-off stall in the Men’s Lavatory totally blows-out-of-the-water any idea that the blocking off of the stall in the Women’s Lavatory relates to Jennifer’s blocking of her memories of Wendy as Princess. And perhaps it does. Unless… the blocking-off of the stall in the Men’s Lavatory relates to Jennifer’s blocking off of her memories of Prince Joshua (also Wendy!).
Perhaps the blockage in the Women’s Lavatory is indeed only a figment of Jennifer’s imagination?
As pointed out she comments on the one in the Men’s Lavatory, so why not the women’s as well? The lack of comment in a chapter where she’s remembered everything stands out a lot. If the blockage was real, then I think she would comment. Although I have no theories as to why in her ‘dream’ it’s blocked…
When I first read this post I thought of the relation between 1 and the princess so I’m glad you made a comment. I may have botched it.
But I can believe that. Jen is pretending that Wendy wasn’t the princess. She blocked that Wendy was the princess through most of the game. The blocked stall may be part of that.
But I have a question. It’s still blocked in OUAt… does that mean they may have actually blocked the stall when wendy was diposed or were they just leaving it that way because that’s how Jennifer’s trying to remember it?
Masq wrote:
I think that both of those explanations are worth thinking about.
Kind of an odd thought, but when I see all those sacks, I think of the enormous amount of bunny poo from the Sir Peter chapter and start thinking of Hoffman caved in by the poo in that stall. >.> XD
In all seriousness, I’d say that the enormous bunny poo was symbolic of the Hoffman/Clara thing since it’s possible that the Filth Room was Clara’s room, but back on topic…
Do you happen to know which person would’ve had the stall with the eye? Maybe the stall rules applied to each bathroom.