It doesn’t seem to me to have been straightforwardly explained in the Rule of Rose game why it was that Wendy was deposed as Princess.
Because it followed immediately (or so it seems in the game) upon Jennifer’s rebellion against the Aristocrats in general, and Wendy in particular (with Jennifer slapping Wendy repeatedly), it certainly seems that Jennifer’s rebellion is connected with Wendy being deposed. But how did that particular cause produce that particular effect?
It also seems that Wendy’s fall from being Princess may relate to the inscription on the classroom’s chalkboard in the “Stray Dog and the Lying Princess” chapter:
The Stray Dog Legend
That is Just Wendy’s Lie.
But how exactly does Jennifer’s rebellion lead to the Aristocrats coming to disbelieve in Stray Dog?
One can see the scene of Jennifer’s rebellion in this You Tube video: Jennifer rebels against the Aristocrats.
Jennifer calls Wendy “Liar!” as she slaps her… but doesn’t say what it was that Wendy lied about.
Then Jennifer says, “As for the rest of you, how could you believe all those lies?”
But Jennifer doesn’t specify what “all those lies” were about.
It seems that the lies might be linked in some way to the “stupid games” that Jennifer denounces when she says:
I hate you! And I hate you! And you! And I hate myself the very most for playing your stupid games, and not having the strength to stand up to you! It’s all just hideous!
Perhaps Wendy’s lies, and the associated “hideous” games, might be about more than just one thing. Perhaps the lies included the accusation that Martha was a witch, and the “hideous” games included the attack on Martha and her murder. But the “lie” that seemed to be focused on by the Aristocrats, during the meeting to make Jennifer the new Princess, was about Stray Dog—that was where we saw the chalkboard on which was written:
The Stray Dog Legend
That is Just Wendy’s Lie.
In the storybook, “Stray Dog and the Lying Princess”, the attention that Wendy gets from the others is due to her scaring them with the warning “Stray Dog is coming, Stray Dog is coming!” Could it be that Wendy’s scary stories about Stray Dog, and her proposed method(s) by which the orphans could protect themselves, might be the reason that Wendy was elevated to Princess? So that disbelief in those stories would lead to her being deposed as Princess?
I proposed, in an earlier blog-post (“8 Mysterious Objects, and 3 Balcony Ropes“), that there is a shrine to Stray Dog—at the orphanage, made by the orphans—at which offerings were made. And that this shrine was connected to the “game” of finding gifts to give the Aristocrat Club. This may also have been a reason for the bagging and beating to death of small animals… they were sacrificial offerings to Stray Dog (perhaps for food). Wendy, as the source of information about Stray Dog, would have been the “Priestess” of the Stray Dog cult. And this role may have made her the Princess as well.
Did doubt about Wendy’s Stray Dog warnings begin with Jennifer’s rebellion?
I don’t think so.
Meg’s notes about Stray Dog reveal that she was conducting an investigation into Stray Dog. Meg wrote:
Stray Dog’s Notes
The following are notes on the monster Stray Dog, as described to us by the beautiful Princess of the Rose.
He’s big, strong, scarred, loyal, talkative, cleanly, and he kidnaps children who don’t do their chores.
Current Tasks
Stray Dog investigation:
1F Restroom
Gather notes from rumors scribbled on walls: assigned to Susan.
Meg’s investigations regarding Stray Dog may have been rooted in a growing suspicion that Stray Dog was a lie made up by Wendy. If Meg involved Susan in the investigation, then Meg may also have expressed her doubts to Susan. And if Meg was going to share her doubts with anyone, wouldn’t she share them with her beloved friend, Diana, as well?
It may be that Meg was spreading doubt among the orphans about Stray Dog.
And it may well have been that Wendy knew about these growing doubts.
What could Wendy do?
Stray Dog WAS real, and not a lie. But how could she show the other orphans the truth of this?
Could she show them Stray Dog?
Just showing them Gregory, even though he WAS TRULY Stray Dog… would that be convincing? Probably not. Why should the other orphans believe that Gregory was Stray Dog?
What if Gregory ACTED like a dog?
And what if, Wendy might have thought, she could show that she had braved the dangers of Stray Dog to train him and bring him under her control?
Stray Dog had been a grave threat to the orphans, but Wendy, their Princess, out of her great love for her subjects, had braved terrific danger to be their savior and tame Stray Dog! Might this not have been the story that Wendy wanted to be able to tell to the others?
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I have long thought that when one of the orphans said something like, “I can’t stand her” or “She’s such a pain”, they were referring to Wendy, with the exception of any like phrases in The Goat Sisters chapter where it is obvious that Diana is referring to Meg. I’m pretty sure the orphans weren’t as happy with their princess as they lead us to believe even before Jennifer came. I also think that the orphans treat Jennifer so badly because it’s an indirect way to hurt Wendy. They probably thought Jennifer was wrapped around Wendy’s finger but when even Jennifer rebelled against her they must have jumped on the chance to dispose of Wendy.
I agree with the theory that Meg may have been spreading doubt about the Stray Dog legend among the orphans. I think that when Jennifer rebelled against Wendy that they finally concluded that Stray Dog wasn’t real because, even though it has nothing to do with chores, wouldn’t Stray Dog take Jennifer away for being bad by slapping the Princess? If Jennifer was able to do that, and get away with it, then the orphans would be able to do all these other things without the fear of Stray Dog coming to take them away. And that would prove that the legend was a lie….did that make sense?
I’d like to know where Wendy was during the course of events in the game. Why is it that there is barely in trace of her, considering she essentially rules the Rule of Rose. We always tend to see Amanda really taking charge of the group during particular cutscenes, and then when Jennifer has the flashback of Brown’s death, we see her in all her resplendence before getting beat down by Jennifer.
I still think that the events in this particular flashback didn’t quite happen as we see it. In the past, she may have taken Brown’s death without reaction, but after having to go through the entire thing again and reconnecting with Brown (as well as being older and potentially wiser) she saw the Rule of Rose for what it really was: a stupid game. Having to lose Brown once again puts Jennifer over the edge and lashes out, which is something she should have done in the first place).
D’oh, ignore my post. I just realized that “Joshua” is revealed as Wendy at the end of the game.
My bad, my bad.
That’s what I get for not replaying the game and having a bad memory.
Well if Meg had doubted Stray Dog she couldn’t have told Diana because she probably thought Diana would tell Wendy. As much as she loved Diana she probably knew Diana was devoted to Wendy.
Well Jennifer’s “rebellion” against Wendy was a sign of strength and power, something which a leader would need. And Wendy’s response of crying was a sign of weakness which is one cause for her disposal. Even a child understands the basic concept of The strong survive and those with strong protectors survive too.
I think Jennifer wasn’t talking about one lie I think she was talking about everything Wendy had done.
The games and lies:
1) Wendy saying she loved Jennifer, if she did she wouldn’t have killed Brown.
2)Wendy prompting the orphans to kill the various adults(at least Clara because she didn’t leave there was no reason for her too)
3) Stray dog, If Jennifer had known about Wendy training Gregory she would say that. OR if she knew there wasn’t really a stray dog
They’re many other lies and “games” Wendy had told and created that I can’t think of right now but the main thing is Wendy’s supposed love for Jennifer and the other orphans. As Jennifer realized Wendy was doing more harm then good
I always thought one of the “lies” Wendy told that led to her being deposed had to do with Brown’s death. I figured Wendy had told some lie to get the other orphans to kill him. For example the point you made in which you stated:
“This may also have been a reason for the bagging and beating to death of small animals… they were sacrificial offerings to Stray Dog (perhaps for food). ”
Wendy may have told them it was for sacrafice to Stray Dog, when really she just wanted Brown out of the picture because of her jealousy. In the You Tube clip where Jennifer rebels you see that it starts with Brown being dragged off by imps, then Jennifer stumbles upon a dog doll resembling Brown and finally when Wendy reveals herself Amanda approaches Jennifer and tells her “Your friend is in the bag, it’s too late now” and it pans to a bloody bag. It is at that point that Jennifer snaps and attacks Wendy yelling “My friend, give me back my friend!”
Perhaps at that point all the other orphans realized they were just pawns being used by Wendy and deposed her.
I have to disagree with two of Darta’s observastions to the story.
1). Wendy saying she loved Jennifer, if she did she wouldn’t have killed Brown.
In this game love is expressed only as seen from a child’s point of view. When Jennifer came to the orphanage Wendy and Jennifer became friends. However Jennifer found Brown eventually and began to spend more time playing with Brown the puppy in the shed. Wnedy found out about Brown and began to grow jealous of their relationship and began to refer to Brown as a “filthy mut” Wendy in a retaliation to Jennifer’s love for Brown began to spend time with the rabbits. However this proved fruitless, eventually Wendy began to ponder if Jennifer was going to abondon her entirely. Fearing this she took brown and had him killed hoping Jennifer would then pay attention to her and return her love, but Jennifer still loved Wendy in their promise. Wendy just couldn’t understand Jennifer’s love for Brown. I found proof of this when i read Wendy’s letters to Jennifer at the final chapter of the game when you visit her room.
2).Wendy prompting the orphans to kill the various adults(at least Clara because she didn’t leave there was no reason for her too)
If you look at the diary entries of the characters that were supposedly killed in the game you see that they never died but left the orphanage one at a time.
The first to leave was the maid or the Queen of Filth, after meeting her it was depicted that she was dragged away by the Imps and beaten to death. But in reality she was one of the first to abondon the orphanage due to her fright of the children spreading rumors and playing strange games. Not only that but she even found out about Wendy training Gregory like a dog at some points. She tried contacting the police about Gregory but their was sufficient evidence to support her worries about Gregory. Fearing the worst or just giving up on the children she was the first to leave. The act of her being killed by the imps was probably Wendy trying to spread the rumors of her being taken away by the imps manifesting in Jennifer’s imagination.
The second to leave was the Administrator (can’t remember his name). In his diary entries he explains about the behaivior of the children and his authority as an adult wavering in the eyes of the children but for one which was Clara. He expressed his joy when Clara said she wanted to be like him, but it wasn’t enough to keep him in the orphanage. After trials and tribulations to control the children he finally gave up and abondoned them.
Clara was the last to leave due to her lack of confidence and her idol leaving the orphanage. She also left out of fear for herself and what could happen due to the children realizing their predicament to now rule the orphanage without any adult supervision, it basically became Lord of the Flies there.
However Wendy was able to seize control due to her relationship with Gregory and her knowledge of his unstable mentality due to the death of his son Joshua. Wendy manipulated everyone using rumors and storys about stray dog, while controling Gregory to get them food and sweets when he could. But sadly Gregory was the downfall of Wendy’s Order when she finally gave up on Jennifer and the Order betrayed her and made Jennifer the new princess. I think Wendy gave up on everything and let Gregory kill everyone before she to was killed and Gregory put a bullet in his head. At least this is what i think.
Welcome Kai!
Kai wrote:
—The first to leave was the maid—
This is incorrect.
My blog-post “Document-based Time-line: After Jennifer Arrived at the Orphanage” has the evidence showing Hoffman left before Martha.
The date that Hoffman disappeared is given (approximately) by this last diary entry:
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11 November 1930
I’m leaving the orphanage.
Clara’s here to look after things, and the children are quickly growing up.
I’ve done right and fulfilled my duty.
…Bloody hell!
All the trouble started when that wretched child arrived…
I’ve done nothing to deserve this!”
(Headmaster’s Room, Hoffman’s diary, “Once Upon a Time”)
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Jennifer says: “…That’s the end of the diary. We never saw Mr. Hoffman again.”
However, Martha (the maid) wrote a letter to Officer Doolittle dated 24 November 1930.
So Hoffman definitely disappeared before Martha did.
Kai wrote:
—If you look at the diary entries of the characters that were supposedly killed in the game you see that they never died but left the orphanage one at a time.—
There are no diaries by Martha or Clara.
I think that the best starting point for understanding the evidence that Martha was murdered is my blog-post: “The Mystery of Martha’s Letter“.
I have been wondering about this, and it confuses me. 1: why would the other girls follow wendy regardless of the fact that Diana is clearly the oldest.2:How could wendy control Gregor. I also want to take this chance to ask you something. What is the name of the website that created rule of rose? Once i find out how to contact the creators, i want to ask them to make a second rule of rose game. Possibly following the life of wendy and how she rose to the top of the aristocracy following to the point of where she met Jeniffer in Gregors cabin.
Welcome, The inquisitive prince:
—What is the name of the website that created rule of rose?—
The link can be found on my front page as: Rule of Rose, Japan.
Thank you Pokernemesis, i realy do appreciate it.
I dont know if my post will be read, since this entry was made so long ago—
Anyway, in the last chapter, once upon a time, when the lil’ Jen goes into the classroom, we see that they were being taught about different types of goverment, that really caught my attention.. as I linked it to the whole authority based game the children were “playing” and probably, Wendy must have learnt that one way to keep her people under her power is through fear, as have many dictatorships done in the past; so in that way, making up a story of an evil creauture that devours children made it perfect to keep them all working under her command.
I have some comments/questions not directly related to this discussion, but they are about the cutscene being discussed, Jennifer rebels against the Aristocrats (link at the top of the page).
Just made a few observations about clothing in regards to Wendy…in this scene, Wendy is dressed very nicely. All the other orphan girls seem to have pretty plain, utilitarian dresses. Wendy’s other dress, that she’s usually seen in, is plainer, but still more elaborate than most of the others’ dresses. Just wondering if this implies a similar past for Wendy to that of Jennifer. I mean, for Jennifer to have been on the maiden voyage of a very luxurious airship, her parents must have been fairly wealthy. Maybe Wendy had come from a family with some money as well, bringing nice clothing with her. And for the clothes to still fit, she couldn’t have been at the orphanage for TOO long. Interesting that no one else in her family wanted her once her parents died, but that’s another subject entirely
Just a funny little thing I noticed: when Jennifer enters the Aristocrat room (in this whole chapter as a matter of fact), her knee socks are missing. But when Wendy is standing in front of her, and Jennifer is told that Brown is in the bag and its too late, the camera shows her balling up her fist. Her fist is shown next to her ankles and her dark socks are back! At first I thought maybe her leg was in shadow, but her fist is practically ON her leg and so you can see what flesh in shadow looks like; her leg is definitely navy blue…of course, when she becomes child Jennifer, she is wearing white knee socks.
One last thought about the socks: maybe they were gone because Jennifer was considering herself too old for the Aristocrat games? She had said how she felt like the only grown up and adults CERTAINLY don’t wear knee socks…maybe this was the point where she really saw the orphans for what they were (because of what they’d done to Brown) and the disapperance of the socks was symbollic. That could also explain the return of the socks, to show that she actually WAS a child when she confronted Wendy and that this part of Jennifer’s “dream” should be taken as true events from her past.
WitchBaby wrote:
I believe that Wendy is wearing the dress that Amanda was sewing in the “Rag Princess Sews” chapter. And I believe that the dress is a copy (only larger) of the dress that we saw earlier on the Little Princess Doll. That doll used to be Jennifer’s doll (according to “The Little Princess” storybook). I think that the dress indicates that a) Wendy is the Princess, and b) Wendy is offering herself to Jennifer as a replacement for both the Little Princess Doll and for Brown.
As I wrote in my blog-post “The Cell of Bliss Mystery (Part 2)“:
I understand now…that makes alot of sense
Yes, I think this is true too. And it works better with the storybook this way than if Wendy maliciously brought Stray Dog to kill everyone. (Plus, as you know, I hope that Wendy was better than that.) Have we seen any other place where the storybook doesn’t match the content of the chapter? It just seems as if it’s trying to tell you the truth of what happened.
I have one question about the storybook that isn’t addressed in the chapter either…
WHERE ARE THE BOYS!?
They aren’t included in ANY of the storybooks… but we know they died too, however I didn’t see their clothes outside… which is why I wondered if maybe Thomas, Xavier and Nicholas were cornered inside…
I had a sort of odd idea recently about how Wendy may have had Brown killed. But I’m not entirely sure. I didn’t think it through too much, I’ll admit that much right now.
Maybe, as Ayame mentioned, Wendy told a lie to get the other orphans to kill Brown. Perhaps she told them that Brown was Stray Dog? It would seem pretty epic and heroic of her if she had managed to capture wild Stray Dog so that he can be killed for the safety of everyone there.
There’s more than a few problems with this though.
1.) If Wendy became Princess because she had information and thus the ability to protect the others from Stray Dog, killing him would leave the orphans with no reason to let someone physically weaker than them continue to rule them.
2.) The other orphans might have known about Brown being Jennifer’s dog beforehand, and thus not believe that he was Stray Dog. Unless Wendy told some more lies, but I can’t think of any evidence to support that.
3.) There’s the theory about Brown possibly being only a doll. If that is true, I think the orphans would find it ridiculous that a stuffed dirty dog doll could be capable of killing/eating them, and Wendy trying to reveal such a thing to them as the truth would cast more suspicion on her. Possibly on her sanity, too. XD
4.) In Meg’s journal, she says that the Princess of the Rose describes Stray Dog as “cleanly”; when on many occasions Wendy refers to Brown as “filthy”.
XP Just getting that out of my head so I can focus more on some other ideas I had. >.>
Choco-chan:
Before I began this Rule of Rose Mysteries blog, I wrote a series of ROR theories under the heading “Darkest Case Scenario”, on a now-defunct Rule of Rose forum. The thematic idea of these theories was to present theories involving evil versions of various characters. These theories were not always meant to be taken seriously. One such theory was an evil-Brown theory.
The evil-Brown theory was inspired, at least somewhat, by the “dog-ending” of Silent Hill 2.
The evil-Brown theory heaped the responsibility for most of the bad occurrences in the Rule of Rose upon the deliberately evil actions of Brown.
In that evil-Brown theory, I made much of the fact that Brown is the only ACTUAL stray dog shown to us in the game. I proposed that Brown faked his death, using broken dog-dolls to deceive the very silly Jennifer, in order to precipitate the carnage that followed. It is because Brown faked his death that he was able to mysteriously “return to life” in the Stray Dog and the Lying Princess chapter.
On a more serious note…
We are shown the Stray Dog drawings on the Orphanage walls, and find Brown’s dog collar, in the first chapter of the game; we find Brown tied up, and hanging upside-down, in the second chapter. As these are the only dog-related events up until that point, the player is undoubtedly meant—by the game author(s)—to wonder if Brown and the Stray Dog drawings might be connected.
It is interesting to consider whether Stray-Dog-related fears, among the orphans, might have been able to be transformed into a fear of Brown, and if that might be one reason why Wendy relished telling scary tales of Stray Dog.
As mentioned in comment 20, the Silent Hill 2 “dog-ending” (SH2 spoilers):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHU2eqCEJ4o&feature=related
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PN said:
Heh, the whole Stray Dog thing kind of reminds me of when I was little. My friend and I used to scare ourselves silly with stories about our made up bogeyman (his name was “Old Suitcase” o.o;) I adore how well the game captures little girl mentality. lol Old Suitcase was based loosely around a tramp we used to see… if memory serves…
The SH2 dog ending is hilarious. :p Well… no, not really… it’s more just random and weird