Rule of Rose Mysteries

CuriousAristocrat says:

I was just going to ask about the statement “do not be ruled by falsehood” by the Bucket Knight when this blog-post came up…

Thanks for the new post ^_^

Stephen says:

One way a player can know to give the gun to Gregory is that the gun has a “use” function in the menu, another is that Mr. G gets into position to allow this to happen. The whole idea that Jennifer`s ability to regain her memories is contingent upon a massacre that she did not cause ( directly ) is poor game construction IMO. I can easily imagine the brainstorming that the developers went through to come up with a reason why Jennifer should (want) regain her memories….kill her dog

ThisIsTheBestNameIGot says:

Hey, I’ve been stalking these forums for a hot minute now, and mustered up the courage to actually say something.
First of all, how I got here.
I purchased RoR on a whim, attracted by the absurdist charm, but I wasn’t aware there was so much coverage of this intricate novel of a game. I’m not usually one for voice-over video game coverages as yours for RoR Mysteries; often voiced with grating over-emotive voices rambling about things even more grating than the voices themselves. However, I was so enthralled by your knowing commentary and equally knowing voice that I decided to check this blog/forum out. (I’m not usually one for blogs/forums either.)
Secondly, a contribution (if you could even call it that, this sounds so stupid now that I look at it.)
Awhile ago, a favorite cousin of mine showed me a game called chrono trigger or something. Realizing how much bad endings disappointed me and how little time I would have to play such a game before college, I insisted he show how to get the good ending. He showed me an attack sequence to be performed on the final boss that produced a melodic set of tones. He grimaced at handing me such a spoiler and insisted on showing me how one were to realize how to fulfill the conditions of this good ending. Upon listening to the main theme of the game, one can hear the tones of the attack sequence embedded various places in the song.
I posit that a similar theory may hold with “A Love Suicide”.
“Say, where is my shame/When I call your name”
Gregory Wilson/Stray Dog insists on dubbing clearly differently gendered orphans with the name of his passed son in the vain attempt of replacing him, endangering one of them in this replacement process.
“So please don’t set me free”
Stray Dog may have been somewhat willing in his own “domestication” and enslavement since the instrument of his enslavement was Wendy’s semblance to his passed son.
“I will do you harm/I will break my arm”
The former line may refer to his violent tendencies and massacres, even towards the semblances of his son, as Stray Dog while the latter may bear implications about the self-inflicted (?) scarifications or, abiding with my half baked conspiracy theory, documented suicide after the aforementioned events.
“I want to be dead/When I’m in bed”
Although he himself is not bed, Gregory’s bedside tales and wierd pea-talk seem solemn, and one of the few father-son acts we see him perform without a stand in. This absence of a stand in presents more clearly the inevitability of his son’s death. He may either want to be dead from grief, or dead so he can actually read these stories with his deceased son.
“I can be so mean/You can beat me”
“Mean” would be a euphemism for Stray Dog’s crimes, and does allow himself to be dog-trained (beaten) by Wendy-as-Joshua.
“I would like to blame/shame you/Just b/c my love…”
Although a stand in for Joshua, Stray Dog is prodded to attempt J’s murder, and succeeds in murdering Wendy, another stand in, although he came to love at least J like his son while in the Gingerbread House. If it were not for his love for his son and his imitators, he would not have been so easily cohereced into the orphanage murders.
“Alone but sane/A love suicide”
I mean, he lives alone. He’s obviously not sane, but at least everythings okey dokey in his fabricated mental world alone in his house (spare the pistol to the head, possibly another clue to “use” the gun) until he encounters the outside world and things go awry with his stand ins. He even realizes something’s wrong at some level, though still half immersed in his delusions, prompting him to ask for the gun.
There’s more connections than that, but I already slaved away enough on this nonsense.
While I realize there are echoings of this song’s themes in many of the significant relationships (The masochist Meg with the sadist Diana, The masochist Amanda with the unwilling sadist Jennifer, Clara and Hoffman, need I say more?) I find the song rings especially true for me with Stray Dog. I know I’m crazy, but I felt guilty leeching off of all of your beautiful insights without contributing.

Grandpaf says:

Oh, i am very happy to see someone posting this interpretation of Love Suicide! That was an idea i used in one of my french fanfiction some time ago. I also think this song could have his own thread!

Orphelin, mais sensé
Je suis l’Amour-Suicidé

Car alors
L’amour lui-même est aussi innocent qu’une rose en mai
Doucereux et blanc, pur comme le péché

Sabo says:

Did Gregory use the gun to kill some of the kids, and left one for himself? So he brought the gun with him when he went to the orphanage although we get no indication of any gunshots so we don’t know for sure

Distant_Prince says:

I really needed to stop lurking around! XD Been two weeks! Anyways, I always thought that Jennifer never gave him the gun, nor did Wendy give Jennifer the gun. I’d always presummed that, since they were both there when they toke the gun, that they must have hidden it together and Jennifer would know where it was….and on her way out of the orphanage (after the 1st fight with stray dog, I think she was just hiding at that point T_T) took the gun but it fell out of her hand while dodging Gregory in the last fight…and then he took it and shot himself…

SkyeDestiny says:

Another clue to having to give the gun to Gregory is seen, I believe, in the “Gingerbread House” chapter, where, when you run into Gregory in his cellar bedroom, he’s seen with his back towards the door, holding a gun to his head. He only lowers the gun, and it seems to even disappear, when he notices Jennifer.

Also, I think you’re right about Jennifer never giving the gun to Gregory in reality, and never even receiving the gun from Wendy. I think that was, as you mentioned in a past entry, a wish-fulfillment portion of the dream. What I believe really happened is that Jennifer hid during the time of the massacre. But, as we’ve seen, it appears she wishes to view herself as…more courageous, I guess, than she really is. (Though she can’t be blamed for being so fearful – she was just a child after all.) Rather, I think what the whole boss battle is is Jennifer’s way of saying, “This is what I -should’ve- done.” Or, “I really wish this had happened instead…”

Nasta says:

viewing the post i noticed something disconcerting
In the newspaper says thats ALL the childrens was murdered…
including jennifer??

Nasta says:

ooooohhh thats explain it.
Viewing the post bring me diseres to play the game again jeje