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		<title>By: trolling</title>
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		<dc:creator>trolling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 09:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;trolling...&lt;/strong&gt;

[...]Rule of Rose Mysteries » &#8220;El Orfanato&#8221; (&#8220;The Orphanage&#8221;) and &#8220;Rule of Rose&#8221; Similarities (movie spoilers!)[...]...</description>
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<p>[...]Rule of Rose Mysteries » &#8220;El Orfanato&#8221; (&#8220;The Orphanage&#8221;) and &#8220;Rule of Rose&#8221; Similarities (movie spoilers!)[...]&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: karoleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>karoleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2010 17:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and i want to say something please *screaming* I LOVE RULE OF ROSEEEE! thxx.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and i want to say something please *screaming* I LOVE RULE OF ROSEEEE! thxx.</p>
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		<title>By: karoleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>karoleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2010 17:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i made you do this Lol. just kidding yea i always thought it looks like rule of rose ~_^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i made you do this Lol. just kidding yea i always thought it looks like rule of rose ~_^</p>
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		<title>By: PokerNemesis</title>
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		<dc:creator>PokerNemesis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 00:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mallorie wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;I tend to think that a lot of the similarities are coincidental. The first draft of El Orfanato was written way back in ‘96.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

But who knows what was in that first draft, or what was missing from it? It isn&#039;t at all uncommon for the actual shooting script of a film to be extremely changed from the first draft, or even late drafts, of the screenplay.   Rule of Rose influences had plenty of opportunity to come into play, in a major way, during the big gap of time before the actual making of the film occurred.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mallorie wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>I tend to think that a lot of the similarities are coincidental. The first draft of El Orfanato was written way back in ‘96.</p></blockquote>
<p>But who knows what was in that first draft, or what was missing from it? It isn&#8217;t at all uncommon for the actual shooting script of a film to be extremely changed from the first draft, or even late drafts, of the screenplay.   Rule of Rose influences had plenty of opportunity to come into play, in a major way, during the big gap of time before the actual making of the film occurred.</p>
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		<title>By: PokerNemesis</title>
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		<dc:creator>PokerNemesis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 00:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mallorie,
But who knows what was in that first draft, or what was missing from it? It isn&#039;t at all uncommon for the actual shooting script of a film to be extremely changed from the first draft, or even late drafts, of the screenplay.   Rule of Rose influences had plenty of opportunity to come into play, in a major way, during the big gap of time before the actual making of the film occurred.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mallorie,<br />
But who knows what was in that first draft, or what was missing from it? It isn&#8217;t at all uncommon for the actual shooting script of a film to be extremely changed from the first draft, or even late drafts, of the screenplay.   Rule of Rose influences had plenty of opportunity to come into play, in a major way, during the big gap of time before the actual making of the film occurred.</p>
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		<title>By: Mallorie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mallorie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 22:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just watched the El Orfanato for the first time yesterday (fantastic movie, btw), and I noticed several of these similarities. Like Lucas pointed out, Laura&#039;s outfit when she&#039;s trying to invoke the orphan ghosts even resembles Jennifer&#039;s clothes.
 
However I tend to think that a lot of the similarities are coincidental. The first draft of El Orfanato was written way back in &#039;96.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just watched the El Orfanato for the first time yesterday (fantastic movie, btw), and I noticed several of these similarities. Like Lucas pointed out, Laura&#8217;s outfit when she&#8217;s trying to invoke the orphan ghosts even resembles Jennifer&#8217;s clothes.</p>
<p>However I tend to think that a lot of the similarities are coincidental. The first draft of El Orfanato was written way back in &#8216;96.</p>
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		<title>By: PokerNemesis</title>
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		<dc:creator>PokerNemesis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 21:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome, Lucas!

Lucas wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Laura decides suicide, while Jennifer decides forgetting and going back to protect and do things right.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

For my comparison of those decisions, see my blog-post, &lt;a href=&quot;http://ruleofrosemysteries.com/2008/04/23/uncategorized/comparing-endings-el-orfanato-the-orphanage-and-rule-of-rose-warning-movie-spoilers/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Comparing Endings:  &quot;El Orfanato&quot; (&quot;The Orphanage&quot;) and &quot;Rule of Rose&quot; (warning, movie spoilers!)&lt;/a&gt;.
~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome, Lucas!</p>
<p>Lucas wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>Laura decides suicide, while Jennifer decides forgetting and going back to protect and do things right.</p></blockquote>
<p>For my comparison of those decisions, see my blog-post, <a href="http://ruleofrosemysteries.com/2008/04/23/uncategorized/comparing-endings-el-orfanato-the-orphanage-and-rule-of-rose-warning-movie-spoilers/" rel="nofollow">Comparing Endings:  &#8220;El Orfanato&#8221; (&#8220;The Orphanage&#8221;) and &#8220;Rule of Rose&#8221; (warning, movie spoilers!)</a>.<br />
~</p>
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		<title>By: Lucas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 19:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too have written an article on a community on orkut about the similiarities between El Orfanato and Rule of Rose, and I think there are more than you&#039;ve listed, and I don&#039;t mean to be offensive or anything like that, but I think the &quot;flour&quot; thing, and using a movie projector are just too simple and too silly to be &quot;references&quot; in fact.

Instead of that, I would say that Jennifer and Laura are extremely alike, mainly at the end of the movie, where Laura wears clothes that really remember the ones Jennifer wears. There is also somethings that makes Simón recall me of Brown, from the game.

For example, Simón and Brown are the protagonists&#039;s only and precious thing - the thing they love most and will try to protect always. When Laura finds Simón in the basement, it is just like Jennifer digging up her best friend&#039;s grave. Both of the protagonists want to, at any costs, reunite with their best friends. Laura decides suicide, while Jennifer decides forgetting and going back to protect and do things right.

Another resemblence? None of the protagonists can actually save their &quot;treasures&quot;. Simón dies. Brown dies.

Do you agree?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too have written an article on a community on orkut about the similiarities between El Orfanato and Rule of Rose, and I think there are more than you&#8217;ve listed, and I don&#8217;t mean to be offensive or anything like that, but I think the &#8220;flour&#8221; thing, and using a movie projector are just too simple and too silly to be &#8220;references&#8221; in fact.</p>
<p>Instead of that, I would say that Jennifer and Laura are extremely alike, mainly at the end of the movie, where Laura wears clothes that really remember the ones Jennifer wears. There is also somethings that makes Simón recall me of Brown, from the game.</p>
<p>For example, Simón and Brown are the protagonists&#8217;s only and precious thing &#8211; the thing they love most and will try to protect always. When Laura finds Simón in the basement, it is just like Jennifer digging up her best friend&#8217;s grave. Both of the protagonists want to, at any costs, reunite with their best friends. Laura decides suicide, while Jennifer decides forgetting and going back to protect and do things right.</p>
<p>Another resemblence? None of the protagonists can actually save their &#8220;treasures&#8221;. Simón dies. Brown dies.</p>
<p>Do you agree?</p>
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		<title>By: thecatmax</title>
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		<dc:creator>thecatmax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hum... I know I am shaking an old subject, but I have a very strong feeling that there is probably no connection at all between the movie and the game. Rule of Rose is certainly a very good game for those who have played it, but is still very unknown. Wouldn&#039;t Guillermo DelTorro have better things to do thant to finish an unknown game in order to get inspiration for his movie. Coincidences such those we can see in the movie can happen, and to me, except for the setting, which I admit, are very similar, there is nothing to let us think that the director of such an important movie would  directly put references to Rule of Rose &quot;for the fans&quot;, simply because those &quot;fans&quot; are so rare! I think the reason we see a connection with Rule of Rose in the movie is simply because we are so taken by the game ourselves!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hum&#8230; I know I am shaking an old subject, but I have a very strong feeling that there is probably no connection at all between the movie and the game. Rule of Rose is certainly a very good game for those who have played it, but is still very unknown. Wouldn&#8217;t Guillermo DelTorro have better things to do thant to finish an unknown game in order to get inspiration for his movie. Coincidences such those we can see in the movie can happen, and to me, except for the setting, which I admit, are very similar, there is nothing to let us think that the director of such an important movie would  directly put references to Rule of Rose &#8220;for the fans&#8221;, simply because those &#8220;fans&#8221; are so rare! I think the reason we see a connection with Rule of Rose in the movie is simply because we are so taken by the game ourselves!</p>
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		<title>By: PokerNemesis</title>
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		<dc:creator>PokerNemesis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 04:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Emriss wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;there wasn’t really anything that one could point to and say, ‘See, it does have Rule of Rose influence!’ The nesting eggs weren’t really a plot necessity, but nor were many of the other clues.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think that the fact that the nesting items, and other similarities, were not plot necessities is an argument against coincidence.  There seems to be no real reason for them to be there other than as a deliberate homage to Rule of Rose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emriss wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>there wasn’t really anything that one could point to and say, ‘See, it does have Rule of Rose influence!’ The nesting eggs weren’t really a plot necessity, but nor were many of the other clues.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think that the fact that the nesting items, and other similarities, were not plot necessities is an argument against coincidence.  There seems to be no real reason for them to be there other than as a deliberate homage to Rule of Rose.</p>
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