This is the complete collection what Jennifer herself says (excluding what is written in documents) in the “Once Upon a Time” (January) chapter of Rule of Rose.
This collection includes five of Jennifer’s memories/comments that were omitted in the GameFAQs game-script faq written by TheSinnerChrono. I marked these with “####” to make them easier to find (for readers only interested in these).
This post does not contain commentaries by me (unless some of my descriptive comments count as being commentary).
If anyone finds anything I missed, or any mistakes I’ve made, please let me know in the comments. Thanks!
Filth Room:
–At the shelf:
“This letter looks familiar… Yes. it’s one of the secret letters that Wendy and I traded.” (reads letters) “Wendy… You were always so lonely. Poor, lonely Wendy… I wonder if my letters ever reached her.”
–At the central pillar:
“Tied to this pillar, unable to move, I was all alone. It took a while, but I finally freed myself. I was always the slow poke… But, that won’t happen again. I’ll never let myself be tied up again.”
–At the suitcase:
“When I came here, this suitcase was the only luggage I had… I lost everything in the accident. My mother, my father, all my possessions, and even my memories.”
–At the sunny window:
“I spent so much time in this room… Who knows how many times I woke up here? The nights were lonely and cold, but you’d always greet me in the morning… Only you greeted me warmly. Thank you so.
–At the rubbish bin:
“It’s the detested rubbish bin. No one ever suspected that something precious was hidden inside it. Nor did they know that it was the only place where I could keep my things safe.”
–At the empty corner (where Bucket Knight had been):
“It feels as if something very dear to me was here. Someone or something that always looked after me… helped me.”
Hallway:
–At the laundry shelves:
“Everyone would put their dirty laundry here, and it was my job to wash it. How ironic… The one they called “filthy” washing their filthy clothes. It all seems so silly now.”
2nd Floor Lavatory:
–At the toilet that has an eye drawn on the toilet lid:
“‘We’re watching you.’ That’s what the picture meant. But it was still scary.”
–At Bucket Knight (by the sinks and mirrors):
“Bucket Knight… A makeshift knight that Nicholas and Xavier used for sword practice. Though they may have forgotten about it, I’ve always remembered. For, I yearned for a loyal knight to come to my rescue.
Hallway (Front Stairway balcony):
–At the empty picture frame:
“There used to be a picture here, of everyone at the orphanage. It was a picture filled with hope, taken the day I was brought here. I was afraid someone would try to steal this precious memory from me…so I took the picture down and kept it safe.”
Sick Bay:
–At the drawers (these look like the same drawers as had the forbidden drawer in the “Unlucky Clover Field” chapter):
“Clara was a quiet person. To me, she looked like just another student at the orphanage…except when she spoke to Mr. Hoffman or Martha. Then, she looked scary. I wonder if I’ll be like Clara when I’m older… Will I enjoy those days?”
Sickroom:
–At the rabbit cage:
“Peter the rabbit… He was the pet that Wendy suddenly decided to take care of. It was the same time I started looking after Brown… I wonder if Wendy really loved Peter… Was she sad when she had to give him up?”
–At the lamp:
“This letter looks familiar. Yes it’s one of the secret letters that Wendy and I traded. ” (reads letters)
Balcony:
–At the birdcage:
“The red bird in the cage… The doll Eleanor treasured. ‘If only we could fly like birds and go wherever we wished,’ she whispered softly. Yet, no matter how much Eleanor wished, she’ll never be able to just fly away from this orphanage. Poor Eleanor… She was burdened by her own frozen heart.”
Play Area:
–By the chair and train-track circle:
“Thomas was always playing with his trains…They were his only friends. There were no final stops on his railroad, for that would be devastating to him. It’s rumored that this obsession had something to do with his birth, but Thomas never spoke about it with anyone.”
####By the blocks:
“No one really played with the toys here because they were all old. Only Thomas was the master of this room. ‘A new girl, a new girl!’ he exclaimed when we first met. He seemed to enjoy teasing me.
Library:
–By the white goat doll:
“It’s a stuffed goat… The white goat Mary. The black goat Sally. When Meg found her letter to Diana torn apart, she was deeply wounded and cried in Diana’s arms, even though she was the one that ripped it up… And, when Meg’s notebook was found all scattered about, Diana made fun of her, saying, ‘Mary and Sally must’ve ate it.’ Poor Meg… She was bound by the shackles of foolish devotion.”
–By the painting of the airship:
“The future that people dreamt of never came and was soon forgotten. From the blue skies of hope, it sank into the depths of oblivion. The new life born from it was an existence devoid of hope. It slowly wriggles its large body and stares at the sky with a remorseful look… That’s its only purpose.”
Sewing Room:
–At the sewing machine:
“Amanda was fond of using the sewing machine. When she got absorbed in something, she’d think of nothing else, especially sewing, which was always on her mind. If we ran out of cloth or thread, she’d just sew rags with an empty needle over and over again… And then she’d smile at the tattered rag with satisfaction.”
Hallway (2nd floor):
–At the graffiti on the floor near the Sewing Room door:
“There are doodles everywhere. No matter how many we cleaned, more would show up the next day.”
Dormitory:
–At one of the two central tables:
“The night was quiet dark and scary. Yet it was a mysterious time that aroused excitement. Some nights, we’d stay awake in secret, hiding from the teacher, and draw pictures by lamplight. It made us feel very much like adults–something not possible during the day.”
–At the other central table:
“A mermaid doll… What a proud and pure creature. Diana yearned to become a beautiful lady, like a mermaid, but as she grew older, she realized that she was straying further and further from her ideal self. Poor Diana… She was trapped by her own ideals.”
Front Stairway:
####At the ladder:
“That day when Thomas couldn’t get down from the tree, the ladder, which had been collecting dust, sure came in handy. Back then, Mr. Hoffman was a kind and admirable teacher.”
Main Hall (first floor):
–At the vase of flowers:
“There used to be beautiful roses here, picked by Wendy from the rose garden. …But, as with all things, they wilted away with the passage of time.”
–At the potted fern:
“Miss Martha used to scold Nicholas for forgetting to water the plants, and then she’d turn her wrath on me, snapping, ‘What are you laughing at, young lady!?’”
Hallway near Classroom door:
–At a bucket-headed construct:
“A silent scarecrow… It stands there quietly, not meddling in the affairs of others. It sways in the breeze, like me…a cowardly girl who was unable to assert her true feelings.”
Men’s Lavatory:
####At the blocked-off toilet stall:
“Once, Susan started a rumor about voices coming from this room at night… It turned out it was only the door creaking in the wind, but one night, sounds came from the room even with the windows shut. Susan jumped out of her bed and screamed. It was really just a prank by Nicholas and Xavier. From then on, the room was believed to be haunted and was considered off limits.”
Classroom:
–At the blackboard (which has written on it: “Hitlerism is a form of government controlled by one man’s will / Democracy is a form of government controlled / Hitlerism is a form of government controlled by one man’s will”):
“I learned many things at this orphanage…The alphabet… words… how to clean and do laundry… But the most important thing I learned… was the lesson I received in exchange for my dear friend’s life… I finally came to understand myself. My beliefs and the will to stand up for them… I don’t want to lose those ever again.”
–At the drawings on the wall (a map of Great Britain):
“The map of this country… That day we flew from England… Those memories were buried deep inside of me… The airship…and the accident… Thereafter, the story of my life became a tale of misfortune. Even when the others played ‘airship’ I couldn’t bear to join them, so I was left out.”
–At the schedule of classes on the wall:
“A brat, a know-it-all, an introvert, a crybaby, and an elitist… I know misfortune, because I tolerated them all. I thought I was the only grown up, but we were all just kids, myself included. But what does it really mean to be a grown-up? Will I ever become one?”
–At the furnace:
“On cold winter days, we all used to gather here and talk… I, of course, couldn’t join in, so I sat off to the side. Even so, it felt so warm.”
Bathroom:
–At the mirror (looking at her own reflection):
“Jennifer, are you happy now, considering how bad it was for you, back then? …That tragedy you wanted to forget. Now that you remember everything, how do you feel? Is the answer inside you? Think carefully Jennifer.”
Wash house:
–At the sinks:
“I came to this room every day to do laundry… The water was so cold, and the soap would sting my eyes, but I didn’t hate it, because clean laundry is so refreshing.”
Kitchen:
–At the table:
“If Miss Martha had disappeared, there would’ve been no one to cook… If Clara had disappeared, there would’ve been no one to tend our wounds… If Mr. Hoffman had disappeared, there would’ve been no one to teach us. You can’t live life eating snacks all day, with no exercise or studying. If you look at it that way, even the Aristocrat club needed adults around… Our world was so small.”
Martha’s room:
–On the bed:
“There are a couple of letters here. It’s a letter from the police… “(reads letter) “It’s a letter from Martha…”(reads letter) “The letter ends there… Perhaps if the matter had been addressed publicly, things wouldn’t have turned out as they did. Adults are so selfish.”
Cafeteria:
–At a fork on the table:
“Olivia, the one who cried all the time, stopped crying completely when all the adults were gone. With no teacher to give her attention and no cleaning lady to scold her, there was no point in crying anymore. …Poor Olivia.”
Inner Court:
–Site of Brown’s burial:
“It all started here, when I dug up the mound… I sensed that something precious to me was buried here… and I couldn’t stop myself… The old me… the one who didn’t understand herself… I lost my friend because of her. If… If I could go back… I’d try to save him… but what has happened can never be undone. I’ll never break a promise again.”
Cell of Remorse:
(nothing)
Cell of Pleasure:
(nothing) film projector
Cell of Repentance:
(nothing)
Cell of Solitude:
–At the central chair:
“One time, Diana was absorbed in deep thought here. She was the prettiest, the most mature of the Aristocrats. She wanted so much to be an adult… and yet she was also afraid of growing up too fast.”
Cell of Bliss:
–At the table:
“The spooky things… The scary creatures that everyone talked about… They’ll come and clean if you don’t, sweeping bad children away like dust… Well, they actually came and attacked me… I knew what they really were… but that wasn’t the problem. The real problem was my weak heart. My weakness was what drew them here.”
Closet Room:
–At the clothes hangers:
“On Halloween, we all dressed up in costumes… Everyone else wore bags over their heads, and stared at me through tiny holes… Their blank faces and muffled voices… It scared me like you wouldn’t believe… ‘Is it really you under there?’ I asked, fearing it was something else. But, no one would answer me.”
–At the mirror:
“Amanda was always more sensitive about her looks than anyone else. One day she was given a severe scolding by Miss Martha. That’s because Miss Martha’s lipstick had gone missing. The lipstick was never found, but I know Amanda took it. I’ve seen her applying it late at night.”
Hallway (ground floor, connecting Headmaster’s Room and Closet Room):
####At drawing on the floor of a big donut-shaped one-eyed person (near cabinet):
“This sloppy drawing must be Thomas’s. See what happens when you give him chalk? The walls, the floors… To him, it’s one big canvas.”
####At drawing on floor of spooky things (nearest the Headmaster’s Room):
“The spooky things… They swept away everything that’s dirty, including disobedient children. It was a scary story that started as a rumor and spread like wildfire.”
####At drawing of spooky things (nearest the Closet Room):
“The spooky things love to clean. That’s why they always carry mops and brooms. They’ll kidnap you if you don’t clean. At least, that’s what everyone says.”
Headmaster’s Room:
–At the PA system:
“Mr. Hoffman loved to broadcast over the PA system… while we were cleaning, while we were eating, and even after we were in bed. He always announced our names in the order of his favorites. We’d try our best to win his approval and be the first one to be called. But he never called my name, not once. I thought it was all rather silly, anyway.”
–At the desk:
“The book is open… ” (reads Hoffman’s diary entries). “At the time it seemed so frightening… Were those scary things that attacked me just figments of my imagination…?” (another entry) “..The diary continues, but the last page is particularly interesting… It’s Mr. Hoffman’s last entry before he disappeared.” (another entry) “…That’s the end of the diary. We never saw Mr. Hoffman again.”
–At the fish tank (a fish swims inside):
“I know you’re in a very stinky place, because that rag Diana put to my face smelled just awful. But, no matter how clever or fast you are, there’s no escaping. You’re like a mermaid in captivity… adapting to a new reality. Leaving your home behind…did you find happiness?”
Headmaster’s Closet:
–At the shelf that has shoes:
“That day, Mr. Hoffman disappeared, like he was running away from something. He had tried too hard to be someone he wasn’t. The expectations were too much for him… and he wanted to escape those restrictions. However, children and adults live in the same world, and we must both play by society’s rules.”
Reception Room:
–At the record player:
“The record player is brand new. Playing a record would fill the room with sweet music.”
–At the fireplace:
“It was a cold, winter night… I had been scolded as usual, and called into the headmaster’s room. I didn’t like being scolded, but I didn’t mind so much when it was in front of the fireplace, which was warm and cozy.”
–At the vase on the central table:
“All of us loved red roses. Even the name of the orphanage was befitting of an Aristocrat… It wasn’t until I swore the oath of the rose that I learned roses have thorns.”
–At the dish cupboard:
“This is Mr. Hoffman’s prized collection of fine dishes. We would sometimes sneak them out and play house with them in the attic, but that’s our little secret.”
–At the graffiti covered portrait:
“This is a picture of Mr. Hoffman when he was a young man. He was so proud when he showed it to us… He never caught the one who doodled on it though. But, I know who did it. I saw Thomas trying to move the ladder on the day it happened.”
Women’s Lavatory:
–Toilet stall with bird drawing:
“Red bird drawings. A red crayon and… a red broach… A red rose and… red blood… Red is the most beautiful color, yet it comes at a price. It is my most favorite color and my most hated color.”
Entrance-way:
–At the lockers:
“It’s a small locker, but it was just for me. My name was even on it. They made me feel welcome. I was so happy… I’d move my shoes in and out, over and over again.”
–At the umbrella stand:
“We never used umbrellas. On snowy days, we’d go out for snowball fights. On rainy days, we’d go out and play in the rain, and get soaking wet. Every time, Xavier would trip and get himself all muddy and we’d laugh. It was so much fun.”
–At the portrait of Hoffman:
“One day, Mr. Hoffman suddenly disappeared. Clara and Miss Martha soon followed, leaving me and the other orphans alone.”
Front gate:
–At the orphanage sign to the left of the gate:
“The Rose Garden Orphanage… That day, I was escorted from the scene by Officer Doolittle. At first, it was reported that there were no survivors… Then, word got out that, miraculously, I had escaped the tragedy… When rumor spread that I was also the sole survivor of a horrific airship accident in which the passengers were all presumed to be dead, the media went into a frenzy. and so, the tragic murder of the residents of a rural orphanage was instantly bumped from the front cover of the daily newspaper to an obscure corner… I’m sorry everyone. You don’t deserve to be forgotten… But I’ll remember you. Thank you all for the precious memories.”
Fork In The Path:
####At the sign:
“The sign has been broken ever since I came here. I guess it doesn’t matter: no one comes to visit anyway.”
Bus Stop:
–At the bus stop sign:
“That bus that brought me here… Should I try to take it the other way? …No, that’s not right. There are still things I have to do here. Wait for me, Brown.”
Outside the rickety shed:
–At the door:
“Please wait for me. I’ll be there.”
Inside the rickety shed:
(Spoken to Brown) “My dear friend… I never want to lose you again. I’ll protect you… forever and ever until I die.” (Writes on chalkboard: “everlasting/true love/ I am yours”) “I’ll protect you… forever until I die.”
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Mr. Hoffman was a kind and admirable teacher? Hmm then when did he start doing those “things” that were implied in the game?
Jennifer says “back then”, so it does sound like either he changed, or Jennifer’s perception of him changed.
During my transcription of these passages, I had a lot of time to listen to the voices in the orphanage. Hoffman’s voice can be heard: sometimes he laughs, sometimes he calls out Jennifer’s name in a warm, kind tone.
Jennifer seems to be focusing on her good memories, and looking at everybody with compassion. She isn’t holding onto any grudges. She kisses Wendy (in spite of her involvement in the death of Brown and the massacre of the other orphans), and listens to Gregory’s story at the bus stop (in spite his role in the massacre of the orphans). She apparently wants to focus on what was good about Hoffman as well.
I’m back!
I know I would like to focus on how good people were. You can’t hate Gregory, he was being abused and was crazy.
Eva says:
–I know I would like to focus on how good people were. You can’t hate Gregory, he was being abused and was crazy.–
You sound like a good person, Eva.
Jennifer seems to me, in the last (“Once Upon a Time”) chapter, to be accepting, forgiving, and compassionate on the level of a Buddha or a saint. I don’t think many people could achieve it.
Yeah, Eva’s a sweetie, it seems. Maybe it’s just a thing females sometimes have, maybe not, but she and I are the only ones I know who are like that. We can’t hate anybody, because we always see both sides of the issue. Thusly, Jennifer’s reasoning makes sense to me.
~Thomas~ was a naughty boy who drew on everything; but to him, his drawings were his entire world. To make the world his canvas, to cover it with pretty pictures- if everyone saw the pretty drawings, they would see he was really smart and talented, and they would love him.
~Xavier~ was clumsy and sometimes a bit mean; but he meant well, really, and he was only ever really mean when he was upset because of something he’d done. It was more embarrassment than spite.
~Olivia~ was still a baby, and she cried and got the others in trouble; but she was really, just a little thing. She cried to get attention because she needed love, and she was scared no one would love her, just like everyone else.
~Clara~ was almost a real grown-up, but she was still an orphan like the rest of them; she was withholding of her love towards the others because of her own pain. Perhaps she was afraid of hurting them like she’d been hurt.
~Diana~… Ahh, here we are. Cruel, demanding, manipulative… but really, was she any of these things?; Diana was orphaned just like the rest of them, and probably was older than most when she got there. It turned her life upside down, so she went about creating a new structure for her life, and for everyone else’s, so that nothing else would go wrong- she set up a moral system based on the sense of justice someone her age would have. Right and wrong were based on rewards and punishments. A rudimentary moral stage everyone goes through. But because of the unique situation, she based her system on faulty data. Molestation was a punishment, and so she adopted it as an acceptable punishment for her use as well, though it disgusted her. The bizarre childish games of the RCA became part of the justice structure as well, until it defined the group as a whole. But all she really meant by all this was to have some control over her life, so she would never go through another utterly devastating loss like before. She wished to be a mermaid, a regal, untouchable creature, magical, who lived in a perfect world and never had to face the hardships of ‘reality’. She wanted, deep down, to be a good girl, but she also wanted to keep from being hurt. And the best way to keep others from hurting you is to hurt them first. She was truly trapped by her own ideals.
~Eleanor~ is cold and unfeeling; but she is only that way because to feel would mean to succumb to the horrifying reality of the loss of her parents. She didn’t want to feel again, didn’t want to get hurt by other people, by more loss, so she shut her heart away in a gilded cage to await the day when she was an adult, and she could let the cage door open, let her heart flutter and free and soar off, let the tears flow and the sorrow be felt and eventually fade away. She waited for the day when she could handle being able to feel again.
~Meg~ is brainy, snobby, and kind to no one except Diana, though whether that’s kindness or selfishness is debatable; however, she is also a child, and children are naturally selfish. I suspect she was raised in a way that her parents never truly allowed her to be childish, instead treating her like a tiny adult. So she would seem more mature and wise than her years, but she would also seem babyish in other ways. She would be a reflection of her parent’s values- they valued intelligence, manners, adult behavior- and would be snobbish to those who did not share those values. But what she really wanted [see if you can spot a pattern here] was love. She wanted to be loved by a person higher up than her, a person she saw as more adult or more grown-up than her, to replace her parents’ love. And thus she fell in love with Diana, despite Diana’s cruelties to her.
~Martha~ was mean, strict, and disliked the children; but to be honest, she probably hated her job some anyway. The children weren’t at all related to her and they rarely listened to her, they made fun of her, and the the whole creepy stuff started. How she treated the children was probably a reflection on how she was raised.
~Hoffman~ was a sick child-molesting bastard; but maybe that wasn’t all he was. He was a decent teacher, and while he may have enjoyed manipulating the children, he also sometimes seemed to genuinely care for them. I’m not saying he was really a good person- I’m just saying he might not have been all bad, either.
And, of course, Wendy. The reason she did all of it- using the others like puppets, tormenting Jen by proxy- was actually not all that strange. What she wanted was for Jennifer to love her and much as she love Jen. If you wanted that more than anything, and you had a secret society at your disposal, wouldn’t you take advantage of it? If you were stuck in a place with no one to turn to, where everyone was cruel except for your lovely Princess, you would love her even more! You would go to her, hold and be held by, whisper your grievances and receive consolation. Everything would be all right as long as you were together. But then Brown showed up, and provided another out for him to use when frustrated. Another companion might mean that Josh didn’t need Wendy any more. So she picked up Peter, and by the sound of it, didn’t really take much care of him before giving him up for slaughter. What she hoped by this, perhaps, was to gain Jennifer’s sympathies again, to make her forget Brown and rush to her darling Princess, to stay by her side and console her over the loss of her friend. But she went back to Brown soon enough, and Wendy was upset. It hadn’t worked right- so what to do now? Well, get rid of the dog by force.
I’m not saying that what she did was right, I’m just explaining her thinking,
This might seem cruel to you, but think about it. Children are selfish, egocentric people- they don’t become less so until later, They wouldn’t feel a dog’s pain or feel sorry for it like you might, because they aren’t the dog, so it has nothing to do with them. They’d be willing to sacrifice another foreign creature, something clearly not human, if it means getting what they want. They’re willing to hurt others to get what they want, because they don’t have a sense of sympathy yet.
So anyway, what happens when Brown is put up as the gift? It hurts Jennifer, because she actually has a connection with the dog by now, whereas Wendy has no contact with him and so doesn’t bond with him, just sees him as an obstacle. But Jennifer is scared, and so gives up her dog, because she doesn’t want to die. Only when she is older does she develop into a ‘higher authority’ standpoint of morality and decide that Brown’s life was worth more than her supposed friendship. But the truth is revealed, and Jennifer hits Wendy, unable to believe her Princess is actually the one behind it all. And so Wendy, distraught, takes her well trained and most=likely schizophrenic Greg and sets him on the orphanage.
More or less. Timeline’s probably off, but I’ve been writing all this without a break and my head hurts and I can’t remember anything. Maybe I’ll change it later or something.
It occurred to me I completely left out Susan and Amanda. And Gregory, kinda. Let me think some more, and I’ll try to post on them tomorrow…
Okay, back,
Susan… Well, to be honest, she’s just a typical little girl. Secretive a bit, spoiled a bit, dislikes dirty things and typical ‘boy’ activities. She was just being herself.
~Amanda~ is a bit of a headcase. She’s very self-conscious and her body image is not the best ever. She’s sneaky and vindictive, and rather cruel at times; but, like the others, she really just wants acceptance and love. She does her chores with no complaints, finding the sound of the sewing machine soothing, like white noise to a baby. She’s afraid that, in the RCA’s hierarchical society, it was a black and white decision- either they would like her, or they would like Jennifer. She was sort of right, too. In the end, though, she knew that none of them would really ever like her- perhaps she thought because of the way she looked. And so she became even more obsessed with image.
… Still working on Greg, since it’s hard to pin a diagnosis down on him. We don’t have much info.
Thanks for your thoughts on the characters, aya.
Eh-heh… went a bit overboard. But, you’re welcome. Just employing my powers of diplomacy.
“There used to be beautiful roses here, picked by Wendy from the rose garden. …But, as with all things, they wilted away with the passage of time.”
To me that sounds like she’s speaking of Wendy to me.
I’d Have to disagree with some of what you wrote, Aya. Being sympathetic doesn’t solely rely on growing up, it also comes from your values and beliefs, even from a young age. Sure, when I was a child I didn’t understand that killing animals was wrong, but I knew that if I did something wrong I was going to pay for it later. I believed in God, from a young age, so whenever I did something wrong the fear would overwhelm me that someday I will have to answer for my actions/words, but I would ignore it. What I’m trying to say is, kids don’t always grow up to be better people if adults don’t take the necessary action. Saying kids don’t know any better is not a good enough reason to make sure it doesn’t happen again. That’s why discipline is often necessary. Basically, we will all be judged, whether you believe it or not. So, it really doesn’t matter if you are nice all your life, if you don’t repent. I do not care whether you believe what i know, but the truth is much harsher than reality…
Um No One, can I ask you if you did the good, and do good, out of fearing God or for the sake of doing good?
and I think Aya is saying children have not absorbed the rules of society. No one really does until they’re older and can understand the rules of society. Plus the ones that were older when they came to the orphanage were traumatized, their world was tossed out the window and shattered into a million pieces, some of them would forsake anything anyone taught them . Honestly children grow up they can understand a bit of why a society is like a certain way. Or as the case with most people they absorb the values of those that raise them and those they are around, With out developing their own.
Jennifer could remember very little of her past but still had a urge to do right. Sometimes I believe it’s innate
Though others like myself don’t. Honestly I have values, but they’re my own, my family doesn’t necessarily agree with some of them. And they’ll say things and I’ll call them on it telling them they sound a bit like bigots, and they had no problem with something else that’s equal to what they’re criticizing. Also people who are preachy about they’re religion, values, or beliefs annoy me so. Honestly I have the part of me that abide by soceity then the dark part.
I think most of the orphans could have been redeemed, but they were a bit evil to begin with. If the massacre hadn’t happened and they grew up to be model citizens, underneath all the things they were taught would be the thoughts; the evil. I’m a model student but underneath I have very dark thoughts. The urge is always they’re A person can be controlled by they’re nature. It’s classic Nature v.s nurture
Sorry for the rant I do not mean to offend anyone. These are my opinions, also I have no real religion I just believe there is order and there is chaos in the universe and then there is nothing. Weather we live or die as long as we don’t disrupt a delicate balance we’re little things in the eyes of everything the least we could do is do what is considered right. MY OPINION
Well, Jennifer certainly does have quite the observational point of view. Forgiving but timid. It’s sad that things were so hard on her, but in the end, didn’t she fix it all? She seemed to go through some sort of time passage, back to when she was a child. And she simply left the orphanage which was the best thing to do for all of them, I think it must have saved the rest of the orphans’ lives. Then you see Jennifer in the park, hugging Brown. But it must have been his soul or something, surely her would be too old by then to still be alive? Nice to know that he stayed with her, even in death.
All, I’m saying is that some of what Aya said sounded kinda like “Oh, killers aren’t bad, they were just there at the wrong place at the wrong time” So, I took it the wrong way. I’m sick of everyone thinking that there is no good or evil, but that we are all the same inside and we just do things out of nature. I apologize if Aya didn’t mean that, but I can be a little hothead sometimes.
Btw, I’m at the part where you have to kill 2 of every ghoul. And what is up with the Hoffman guy, he seems to have some serious issues.
Thank you for the clarification. I was just curious. ^_^
I think she was explaining why the children killed. When relativly normal children kill well something sets them off. I was pretty angry growing up and did things I regrett I know what it’s like. One reason I like the orphans a bit
I regret quite a bit, too. Now that I look back, I feel sorry for all those animals
((, but at least now I’m humane enough to think twice.
Ok that came out wrong. I meant I feel sorry for hurting anyone or anything.
when Jennifer was describing the painting of the airship in the library…… it reminded me of the giant fish in the opening sequence. (shivers) creepy o.O
To No One and Darla
part of growing up is realizing your mistakes and trying to make amends for them. I’ve done terrible things and will do them again but you’ve only done true wrong if you never look back on your life and realize that you did something bad but you don’t learn anything.
Sorry to get all sentimental on you two ^-^ my views our kind of stupid i know. (please don’t yell at me)
yes I understand I think anyone normal can understand that. We are taught as we get older what soceity deems right and wrong
well you could just look at it as: no matter what you do someone will hate you for it or think your an idiot for it so who gives a damn what you do. if i look at life like that i know several people i would like to drown. so giving yourself hope even if its probably a false hope is sometimes better so you don’t feel like a worthless and useless piece of crap
Well, to begin everything, I must say I really like the initiative of this blog and I have always loved to go deeper with things. Since Rule of Rose have became the fruit of my obsession since I first played It and that now I had the chance to own it and finish it in three days…. I am very glad I can now participate in here^^
I think that the ending chapter “Once upon a time…” shows how Jennifer wanted to make peace with her past. She understood that living while being constantly tormented by the horrible things she have lived would only darken her life. Furthermore, all those people that she met in her childhood are now dead, making her the one and only owner of this whole universe that was her life. Being the only one who possess it, she has the power to make it beautiful. While looking at our past, the best thing to do it to remember the smiles and what was fun, for that is the only way to find a true inner peace. Forgiving everybody and making peace with what happened is what will allow her to be able to live live at it’s fullest.
I know this interpretation is very idealistic, but I really think that the whole purpose of that “Dream” that Jennifer was having was to let her be free of her past and fly of her own wings.
Oh, also, I think that it is very symbolic that she first deals with what was ugly in her life… Once she has accepted that it has been the way it has, she can now move on to what was beautiful.
Welcome thecatmax!
thecatmax wrote:
I think you have a very good-hearted philosophy of life.
A brat, a know-it-all, a crybaby, and an elitist
An Introvert is missing from this.
“and kind to no one except Diana, though whether that’s kindness or selfishness is debatable”
I would debate that entire sentance. In Unlucky Clover Feild and The Funeral, she seems to be best friends/buddies with Susan and she even mentions her in her notebook.
I think it was sweet of Meg to, what I take to be, tutor Susan in her reading. (that’s what it looks like they’re doing in Unlucky Cloverfeild)
No ill intent there. ^_^- Just acknowledging that Meg did have some form of sweetness in her.
Masq wrote:
Good point.
There is something quite strange about that scene of Meg helping Susan with her reading, however, that I don’t recall anyone ever mentioning for discussion… namely, the story that is being read. How is it that Meg and Susan are reading a storybook of Gregory’s!
Susan seems to be helping Meg with research… perhaps Wendy is bringing in stories from stray dog as well as sweets?
meg and susan are really sweet in the middle of the funeral, while hoffman voice do the announcement… i remember that susan seems to sleep on meg shoulder..
Like they take on each other as sisters.
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–At the schedule of classes on the wall:
“A brat, a know-it-all, a crybaby, and an elitist… I know misfortune, because I tolerated them all. I thought I was the only grown up, but we were all just kids, myself included. But what does it really mean to be a grown-up? Will I ever become one?”
Just figured I’d clarify. An Introvert is missing from the begining of this. “A brat, a knowitall, an introvert, a crybaby and an elitist.”
I just now found a comment by Jennifer that I had previously missed.
At drawing of spooky things (nearest the Closet Room):
The complete set of Jennifer’s comments on the floor drawings of this section of hallway now appears to consist of three comments.
Hallway (ground floor, connecting Headmaster’s Room and Closet Room):
I added the newly discovered comment into the blog-post above.
Treasure hunters should feel encouraged to seek out more comments that may have escaped discovery.
PN I’m sorry I keep saying this but it seems to have gone unnoticed.
Your comment in the classroom about “A crybaby, an elitist…ect,” Is missing “An Introvert.” Until it has that in it, it’s not a direct quote.
At least, that’s what it says in my version.
Masq wrote:
No need to apologize. Thanks for persisting until I did, at last, notice.
The correction is now in place.
^_^- You’re very welcome. I’ll continue to be vigilant. ^_^-
In the once upon a time chapter, Jennifer says, “It’s the detested rubbish bin. No one ever suspected that something precious was hidden inside it. Nor did they know that it was the only place where I could keep my things safe.”
What was the precious thing that Jennifer kept in the rubbish bin that no one else suspected? Was it the picture of everyone that was taken the day she arrived?
WitchBaby asks:
That makes sense. Jennifer says of that photo, in the “Once Upon A Time” chapter:
(Hallway—Front Stairway balcony—At the empty picture frame)
“There used to be a picture here, of everyone at the orphanage. It was a picture filled with hope, taken the day I was brought here. I was afraid someone would try to steal this precious memory from me…so I took the picture down and kept it safe.”
TRmaniac: Just clarification, here. If you look at the date for the Once Upon a Time chapter, you’ll see it’s back at the beginning of the same year, before all of that happened. So the game was pretty much one giant flashback, and we actually saw her as she was then during the scene where she strikes Wendy and in that final chapter. And I think her leaving the orphanage isn’t her literally changing what is to happen. I think it’s more metaphorical, showing how she moves on from her regrets on that part of her life, a theory that’s enforced by how forgiving she is throughout Once Upon a Time. Maybe she wasn’t always like that; maybe before she felt guilty, and mentally retaliated by blaming the others as she thinks they may have blamed her (seems to me that many things show that sort of cause-and-effect, if one takes to heat what Aya said: about how values of the parents and role models are passed on to the children. Also, there’s the ending, which can be seen as a parallel of the relationship between Jeniffer and Wendy; Wendy wanting to keep Jeniffer on a tight leash/keep her all to herself, which Jeniffer literally does with Brown). But in the end, she forgives them, forgives herself, and is able to move on from the series of events that was previously eating away at her, unresolved in her psyche.
My friend and I always joked that there’s probably a random rock in the Once Upon a Time… chapter which, if examined properly, will give the full story of the game, along with missing cutscenes and bonus features. Hehe.
…Needless to say, we’re still looking for that rock.
Or a cheat code to unlock all doors in each chapters ^^
If there’s a debug room, i would say its located in the attic / aristocrats room…
The Cheerful Prince wrote:
Grandpaf wrote:
Hence my announced discovery:
Access to the Attic in the “Once Upon A Time” Chapter! (Part 1)
Access to the Attic in the “Once Upon A Time” Chapter! (Part 2)
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